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Old 04-24-2015, 11:16 AM  
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Dorsey-"there are only 10-12 impact players in the draft"
@TerezPaylor: #Chiefs GM John Dorsey says there are 10-12 impact players in this draft.

Looks like a trade down is coming. Can you guess the 12 players?
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Old 04-25-2015, 11:10 AM   #91
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Oh, I agree, he has shown flashes that he can grow into that, but I can not agree that he was that player in his rookie season.
Gotcha I agree with that. It's actually pretty amazing we were able to get a guy like him in the 4th after lesser players like those guys I mentioned go in the 1st/2nd rounds. Great job by Dorsey there.

Also, makes me question Chip Kelly even more after this offseason that he passed on DAT for Josh Huff in the 3rd last year. He can't even draft the right Oregon guys.
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Old 04-25-2015, 11:10 AM   #92
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Oh, I agree, he has shown flashes that he can grow into that, but I can not agree that he was that player in his rookie season.
Unfortunately, like Albert Wilson, he was injured early and wasn't healthy enough to flash his abilities consistently throughout the 16 game season.

Hopefully, DAT (and Wilson) will be completely healthy in 2015 and much like Kelce in 2014, be consistent playmakers after a disappointing and injury filled rookie seasons.
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Old 04-25-2015, 11:34 AM   #93
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It's all poker play at this point fellas. 10-12 impact players is the 'standard answer' by GMs every year. GMs aren't going to show their cards, c'mon !!! We don't know what Dorsey/Reid 'really think' and the only valuable indicator is history and even that can be misleading at times as well.

Quite frankly I think we are sitting in a good spot with our many picks
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Old 04-25-2015, 11:38 AM   #94
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Unfortunately, like Albert Wilson, he was injured early and wasn't healthy enough to flash his abilities consistently throughout the 16 game season.
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Old 04-25-2015, 11:44 AM   #95
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I'm surprised with how many ****tards are buying into this statement. It was press day for the GM's before the draft. Literally everything that comes out of these guys' mouths should be taken with a fine grain of salt, as they are all most likely blowing smoke screens up everyone's ass.
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Old 04-25-2015, 02:45 PM   #96
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I'm surprised with how many ****tards are buying into this statement. It was press day for the GM's before the draft. Literally everything that comes out of these guys' mouths should be taken with a fine grain of salt, as they are all most likely blowing smoke screens up everyone's ass.
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Oh, I agree, he has shown flashes that he can grow into that, but I can not agree that he was that player in his rookie season.
Exactly the case. Not enough to conclude otherwise - yet...
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Old 04-25-2015, 02:58 PM   #98
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He was talking specifically about the 1st round not the whole draft. He said there will be 32 players picked and 10-12 will be impact players.

That sort of points to him referring to immediate impact type players in the form of starters which makes sense. I imagine statistically there are only 10-12 immediate starters in each 1st round.
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He was talking specifically about the 1st round not the whole draft. He said there will be 32 players picked and 10-12 will be impact players.

That sort of points to him referring to immediate impact type players in the form of starters which makes sense. I imagine statistically there are only 10-12 immediate starters in each 1st round.
and heres to hope he gets one.
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and heres to hope he gets one.
That would mean it would have to be OL, ILB, or WR.
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Old 04-25-2015, 04:00 PM   #101
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At some point you all are going to have to realize that Dorsey doesn't draft for rookies to come in and immediately impact the team. If you're wanting an impact player this season, that hope should be on Dee Ford and last year's draft class.

Whoever we take in the first (my $ is on DL or CB) is there to learn and replace a veteran next year. It's smart, and the only difference is you gave up that first year. Once you get past year one, there should always be guys that come in and make the team better. They're just sophomores.
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Dorsey-"there are only 10-12 impact players in the draft"
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Yea but he's including Winston and Mariota both of which will be busts.

Stop. Just stop. No one who touted jff as hard as you did is allowed to forecast other qb's being busts.
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Old 04-27-2015, 09:46 AM   #103
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With a little luck, out of the 17 teams selecting before the Chiefs, their drone strikes will be off target leaving one of those "impact players" available.
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some team will be stupid and draft offensive linemen before us. sorry, unless it's joe thomas, orlando pace, jon ogden or walter jones, an offensive lineman isn't 'wow' in any way, shape, or form.

"Wow" excites fans, but doesn't necessarily win championships. Good bookend tackles are pretty important in the modern NFL.
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10-12 might be a little light, but I read weeks ago that a number of teams/scouts were saying that only about 15-20 guys had first round grades, really. This draft has few 1st rounders, but alot of 2nd rounders, so alot of quality is to be had in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, potentially.

This is all based on what I read. I'm no draftnik.
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