Chiefs NFL source: Chiefs facing "abyss" - Page 7

**New World Order** · 10-13-2015, 09:30 AM

Dorsey, Andy, Bob and Alex are the problems.

Get rid of em.

Pasta Little Brioni · 10-13-2015, 09:50 AM

Alex Cassel folks.

**The Franchise** · 10-13-2015, 09:54 AM

This team needs to dump worthless players and start ****ing over.....AGAIN.

As it is right now....we've got $35 million in cap room next season.

CUT:

Alex Smith (June 1st)
Josh Mauga
Paul Fainaka
Marcus Cooper

RETIRE:
Tamba Hali
Derrick Johnson

RE-SIGN:

Sean Smith
Eric Berry
Jaye Howard

Discuss Thrower · 10-13-2015, 10:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

This team needs to dump worthless players and start ****ing over.....AGAIN.

As it is right now....we've got $35 million in cap room next season.

CUT:

Alex Smith (June 1st)
Josh Mauga
Paul Fainaka
Marcus Cooper

RETIRE:
Tamba Hali
Derrick Johnson

RE-SIGN:

Sean Smith
Eric Berry
Jaye Howard

Probably time for KC to give up the 3-4 too...

**The Franchise** · 10-13-2015, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Probably time for KC to give up the 3-4 too...

What do you do with Houston? Put his hand in the dirt? SLB?

I think you stick with the 3-4. You re-sign Howard and put him at NT. Poe is moved to DE opposite Bailey. Ford and Houston are your OLBs. Wilson is one ILB and hopefully they found a gem in March.

Discuss Thrower · 10-13-2015, 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

What do you do with Houston? Put his hand in the dirt? SLB?

I think you stick with the 3-4. You re-sign Howard and put him at NT. Poe is moved to DE opposite Bailey. Ford and Houston are your OLBs. Wilson is one ILB and hopefully they found a gem in March.

I just think the 3-4 is too hard to staff with any sort of depth. There's only one OLB capable of rushing the passer in Houston when you need three. None of the ILBs are worth a snot either.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 10-13-2015, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pestilence

What do you do with Houston? Put his hand in the dirt? SLB?

I think you stick with the 3-4. You re-sign Howard and put him at NT. Poe is moved to DE opposite Bailey. Ford and Houston are your OLBs. Wilson is one ILB and hopefully they found a gem in March.

Agreed. That or free agency to find a quality ILB. The only way we are competitors next season is if we fire Sutton, retain Sean Smith, develop Nelson/Peters this season, and figure out what gaps we have going into the draft.

jonzie04 · 10-13-2015, 01:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

Probably time for KC to give up the 3-4 too...

Why? We have no front 7 issues whatsoever in our base set.

Discuss Thrower · 10-13-2015, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonzie04

Why? We have no front 7 issues whatsoever in our base set.

How many sacks has KC netted so far this year?

That's why.

jonzie04 · 10-13-2015, 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

How many sacks has KC netted so far this year?

That's why.

How often do we rush the passer our of our base set? Not often. Besides our base defense is nearly the exact same alignment as the 4-3 under a lot of teams run. Probably with slightly different gap responsibilities though. And our lack of sacks has nothing to do with our base defense. Sutton not blitzing enough, sure. Sutton dropping our best pass rusher into coverage too much, sure. Our secondary not covering enough, sure. Houston being the only person generating any sort of pass rush, sure. Teams getting the ball our quick, sure.. None of these would be solved by switching over to a 4-3.

I do agree though that it is easier finding 4-3 players than 3-4 players though.

ILChief · 10-13-2015, 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Discuss Thrower

How many sacks has KC netted so far this year?

That's why.

It's time to start Ford over Hali. Tamba is done and we need to see if Ford has anything at all

**New World Order** · 10-13-2015, 09:55 AM

The defense has actually played very well in 3 of the games this year. Without the d we wouldn't have had a chance to win.

The d gave the offense 14 pts against Houston.

The d gave up 17 points to Denver and actually had a pick 6. This means all our scrubby offense had to do was put up 14 points and take care of the ball.

The D held the Bears to 18 points and gave the offense 7 points. The offense only needed to score 12 ****ing points against the scrubby bears.

The offense is ****ing pathetic and is the reason the we aren't above .500.

Case ****ing closed.

jonzie04 · 10-13-2015, 10:14 AM

If we draft a 1st round QB next year, I have to wonder if it wouldn't be better to just have a fire sale right now. By the time that QB can develop into a good QB (if he ever does) most of our core guys now will be pushing 30 years old. That being said though that's very risky for a GM to do.

Chiefnj2 · 10-13-2015, 10:22 AM

KC's 4th Quarter Offense.

Kansas City Chiefs at 13:04
1-10-KC 26
(13:04) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 35-C.West to KC 31 for 5 yards (49-S.Acho).

2-5-KC 31
(12:26) 11-A.Smith sacked at KC 30 for -1 yards (99-L.Houston).

3-6-KC 30
(11:41) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 87-T.Kelce (59-C.Jones).

4-6-KC 30
(11:36) 2-D.Colquitt punts 45 yards to CHI 25, Center-41-J.Winchester. 80-M.Mariani to CHI 38 for 13 yards (30-J.Fleming).

Kansas City Chiefs at 09:25
1-10-KC 44
(9:25) (Shotgun) 34-K.Davis up the middle to KC 48 for 4 yards (90-J.Ratliff).

2-6-KC 48
(8:45) 34-K.Davis left tackle to KC 46 for -2 yards (52-L.Reynolds).

3-8-KC 46
(8:04) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 13-D.Thomas.

4-8-KC 46
(7:58) 2-D.Colquitt punts 42 yards to CHI 12, Center-41-J.Winchester, fair catch by 80-M.Mariani.

Kansas City Chiefs at 03:05
9-R.Gould kicks 65 yards from CHI 35 to end zone, Touchback.
1-10-KC 20
(3:05) 35-C.West right guard to KC 22 for 2 yards (59-C.Jones).

Timeout #2 by CHI at 03:01.
2-8-KC 22
(3:01) 35-C.West left guard to KC 24 for 2 yards (49-S.Acho).

Timeout #1 by KC at 02:15.
3-6-KC 24
(2:15) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 19-J.Maclin (21-T.Porter).

4-6-KC 24
(2:11) 2-D.Colquitt punts 43 yards to CHI 33, Center-41-J.Winchester, fair catch by 80-M.Mariani.

Kansas City Chiefs at 00:18
9-R.Gould kicks 70 yards from CHI 35 to KC -5. 13-D.Thomas ran ob at KC 14 for 19 yards. PENALTY on CHI-52-L.Reynolds, Face Mask (15 Yards), 15 yards, enforced at KC 14.
1-10-KC 29
(:11) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass deep middle to 19-J.Maclin to CHI 48 for 23 yards (21-T.Porter).

Timeout #2 by KC at 00:06.
1-10-CHI 48
(:06) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 19-J.Maclin ran ob at CHI 39 for 9 yards. The Replay Official reviewed the pass completion ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 19-J.Maclin.

Timeout #3 by CHI at 00:02.
2-10-CHI 48
(:02) 5-C.Santos 66 yard field goal is No Good, Short, Center-41-J.Winchester, Holder-2-D.Colquitt.

Reerun_KC · 10-13-2015, 10:27 AM

Funny how this went from a Reid thread to a Smith thread...

Anything to deflect the pressure off of Reid...

10-13-2015, 09:50 AM	#2
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10-13-2015, 09:55 AM	#12
New World Order Choco Favre Join Date: Jul 2012 Casino cash: $-1245235	The defense has actually played very well in 3 of the games this year. Without the d we wouldn't have had a chance to win. The d gave the offense 14 pts against Houston. The d gave up 17 points to Denver and actually had a pick 6. This means all our scrubby offense had to do was put up 14 points and take care of the ball. The D held the Bears to 18 points and gave the offense 7 points. The offense only needed to score 12 **ing points against the scrubby bears. The offense is ing pathetic and is the reason the we aren't above .500. Case **ing closed.
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10-13-2015, 10:14 AM	#13
jonzie04 MVP Join Date: Feb 2014 Casino cash: $5716817	If we draft a 1st round QB next year, I have to wonder if it wouldn't be better to just have a fire sale right now. By the time that QB can develop into a good QB (if he ever does) most of our core guys now will be pushing 30 years old. That being said though that's very risky for a GM to do. __________________ 2015 Adopt A chief : Marcus Peters
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10-13-2015, 10:22 AM	#14
Chiefnj2 In Search of a Life Join Date: Mar 2007 Casino cash: $6654388	KC's 4th Quarter Offense. Kansas City Chiefs at 13:04 1-10-KC 26 (13:04) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short left to 35-C.West to KC 31 for 5 yards (49-S.Acho). 2-5-KC 31 (12:26) 11-A.Smith sacked at KC 30 for -1 yards (99-L.Houston). 3-6-KC 30 (11:41) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 87-T.Kelce (59-C.Jones). 4-6-KC 30 (11:36) 2-D.Colquitt punts 45 yards to CHI 25, Center-41-J.Winchester. 80-M.Mariani to CHI 38 for 13 yards (30-J.Fleming). Kansas City Chiefs at 09:25 1-10-KC 44 (9:25) (Shotgun) 34-K.Davis up the middle to KC 48 for 4 yards (90-J.Ratliff). 2-6-KC 48 (8:45) 34-K.Davis left tackle to KC 46 for -2 yards (52-L.Reynolds). 3-8-KC 46 (8:04) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 13-D.Thomas. 4-8-KC 46 (7:58) 2-D.Colquitt punts 42 yards to CHI 12, Center-41-J.Winchester, fair catch by 80-M.Mariani. Kansas City Chiefs at 03:05 9-R.Gould kicks 65 yards from CHI 35 to end zone, Touchback. 1-10-KC 20 (3:05) 35-C.West right guard to KC 22 for 2 yards (59-C.Jones). Timeout #2 by CHI at 03:01. 2-8-KC 22 (3:01) 35-C.West left guard to KC 24 for 2 yards (49-S.Acho). Timeout #1 by KC at 02:15. 3-6-KC 24 (2:15) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 19-J.Maclin (21-T.Porter). 4-6-KC 24 (2:11) 2-D.Colquitt punts 43 yards to CHI 33, Center-41-J.Winchester, fair catch by 80-M.Mariani. Kansas City Chiefs at 00:18 9-R.Gould kicks 70 yards from CHI 35 to KC -5. 13-D.Thomas ran ob at KC 14 for 19 yards. PENALTY on CHI-52-L.Reynolds, Face Mask (15 Yards), 15 yards, enforced at KC 14. 1-10-KC 29 (:11) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass deep middle to 19-J.Maclin to CHI 48 for 23 yards (21-T.Porter). Timeout #2 by KC at 00:06. 1-10-CHI 48 (:06) (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass short right to 19-J.Maclin ran ob at CHI 39 for 9 yards. The Replay Official reviewed the pass completion ruling, and the play was REVERSED. (Shotgun) 11-A.Smith pass incomplete short right to 19-J.Maclin. Timeout #3 by CHI at 00:02. 2-10-CHI 48 (:02) 5-C.Santos 66 yard field goal is No Good, Short, Center-41-J.Winchester, Holder-2-D.Colquitt. __________________ Mismanaging the clock.
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10-13-2015, 10:27 AM	#15
Reerun_KC Banned Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7231160	Funny how this went from a Reid thread to a Smith thread... Anything to deflect the pressure off of Reid...
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10-13-2015, 09:30 AM	#1
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The Franchise Most Valuable Villain Join Date: Dec 2006 Casino cash: $2065047	This team needs to dump worthless players and start ****ing over.....AGAIN. As it is right now....we've got $35 million in cap room next season. CUT: Alex Smith (June 1st) Josh Mauga Paul Fainaka Marcus Cooper RETIRE: Tamba Hali Derrick Johnson RE-SIGN: Sean Smith Eric Berry Jaye Howard
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