Chiefs Alex missing reads - Page 7

Aspengc8 · 12:10 PM

Just a few sample clips from the Steelers game.

First series with a little curl/flat concept. Slot sits right in the middle for a easy 5 yars, instead of forcing to JC.

Spoiler!

Next play, it doesnt look like Alex gets any depth on his sprint out. Conley comes free over the middle.

Spoiler!

Bottom of screen conley 1v1, gotta take that shot

Spoiler!

If alex keeps his eyes down field kelce is wide open

Spoiler!

I will add some more as I get more time.

Hammock Parties · 10-06-2016, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Alex just isn't trusting him, because unfortunately...Alex doesn't trust himself and if he still doesn't trust himself in the fourth year in the same system...he probably never will.
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He isn't trusting the OL, either.

I think he got hit hard against SD, got hurt and it ****ed him up. Not physically, but mentally.

He's scared of getting hit again.

mcaj22 · 10-06-2016, 05:29 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

He had 1300 yards and 10 TDs in his last year in philly.

That was coming off a torn acl and with journeymen at QB.

He provides the total of cj age at WR...Alex just isn't trusting him, because unfortunately...Alex doesn't trust himself and if he still doesn't trust himself in the fourth year in the same system...he probably never will.

He's gonna have to play the best gal of his career the next 12 weeks for us to make the playoffs.

that 1300 yard 10 td season was with Nick Foles/Mark Sanchez throwing him the ball too lol

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-06-2016, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefs Pantalones

Off topic, but is Maclin really a number 1 WR? He'd obviously be better under a QB that can get him the ball more but he wasn't a number 1 with Philly was he? I thought that was Jackson.

I always thought he was; and Desean always seemed like their deep threat. Jackson probably had more highlight "big" plays, but Maclin wasn't a slouch and way more consistent week to week.

**BossChief** · 10-06-2016, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ASS11

He isn't trusting the OL, either.

I think he got hit hard against SD, got hurt and it ****ed him up. Not physically, but mentally.

He's scared of getting hit again.

Ive tried to be optimistic and patient with Alex...but this is a very important year for this team and he's getting paid to play at a high level and is t providing a return on investment.

If I'm Andy Reid, Alex gets 3 games to turn the offense around after the bye before getting benched.

He's playing like a guy scared to lose his job again and with his nature of conservativeness, that might end up costing him the job.

**BossChief** · 10-06-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

that 1300 yard 10 td season was with Nick Foles/Mark Sanchez throwing him the ball too lol

God bless you

Aspengc8 · 10-06-2016, 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Anyong Bluth

Not a problem. I'm wasn't knocking ya, it's just tough to talk about it in nebulous generalities, and threads like this are, IMO, examples of what CP can offer that makes it a draw to frequent.

I'd love if it was a weekly regular of highlighting the 20 or so plays from all 3 phases from the previous game to better illustrate what's really going on and drive the discussion.
Of course, that's a rather time intensive ask for someone to review it all and pull them, and I know people have lives to attend to.

Maybe if more people had access to them and could post how Aspen was able to a "Tale of the Tape Repository" thread that would allow whomever to post a few or even 1 play in particular that caught their eye for discussion, would be a worthwhile addition to CP.

Totally feasible, but dependent really upon who & how many have access to A22. It's nice that you easily embed plays from their site if you do have access. I would have thought the NFL would have made linking or sharing any of their stuff a chore to have to work around.

Either way, I'm grateful for what is shared and threads like this!

I could probably get all the plays into separate A22 offensive and defensive threads. I would just comment the down/distance/result and put a spoiler tag if you want to view the clip. Id love to do that and let you guys break them down collectively as a group. If there is enough interest let me know.

Coogs · 10-06-2016, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Ive tried to be optimistic and patient with Alex...but this is a very important year for this team and he's getting paid to play at a high level and is t providing a return on investment.

If I'm Andy Reid, Alex gets 3 games to turn the offense around after the bye before getting benched.

He's playing like a guy scared to lose his job again and with his nature of conservativeness, that might end up costing him the job.

IMO, if Denver and Oakland win this weekend, Smith needs to be on a short leash at Oakland. We can't afford to fall way back in our own division.

Hammock Parties · 10-06-2016, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

that 1300 yard 10 td season was with Nick Foles/Mark Sanchez throwing him the ball too lol

Aspengc8 · 10-06-2016, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

IMO, if Denver and Oakland win this weekend, Smith needs to be on a short leash at Oakland. We can't afford to fall way back in our own division.

I agree. After seeing that Foles highlight video where he is running literally the same plays as now, one would think he can be as productive given the current personnel.

**Anyong Bluth** · 10-06-2016, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8

I could probably get all the plays into separate A22 offensive and defensive threads. I would just comment the down/distance/result and put a spoiler tag if you want to view the clip. Id love to do that and let you guys break them down collectively as a group. If there is enough interest let me know.

Even making them available like that would spur good discussion. Just number them for easy reference so if someone, for example, references O16 (offense) D31 (defense) S4 (Special teams), people can easily pick it out in the original post.

You can decide how to number or reference it, but that way everyone responding doesn't need to quote the original post and sift through it and try to edit it to repost only the play(s) they are talking about specifically.

This could be awesome!

Discuss Thrower · 10-06-2016, 06:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Aspengc8

I agree. After seeing that Foles highlight video where he is running literally the same plays as now, one would think he can be as productive given the current personnel.

Reservation is that Foles looked like ass in the PS.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 10-06-2016, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

Just did, rough estimate but kinda close lol. definitely not blown out of the water like you make it seem.

63.4 completion 17,835 yards 107 touchdowns 46 ints

58.9 completion 16,328 yards 96 touchdowns 71 ints

Sandy Vagina · 10-06-2016, 06:51 PM

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He isn't trusting the OL, either.

I think he got hit hard against SD, got hurt and it ****ed him up. Not physically, but mentally.

He's scared of getting hit again.

I think you're shit, but you actually may be right about this. His decisions, mechanics, and general lack of comfort at this point is odd.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 10-06-2016, 06:58 PM

Something's wrong with his legs/mobility. And that's pretty much his bread and butter.

For a QB.

For.

A.

QB.

okcchief · 10-07-2016, 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by BossChief

Ive tried to be optimistic and patient with Alex...but this is a very important year for this team and he's getting paid to play at a high level and is t providing a return on investment.

If I'm Andy Reid, Alex gets 3 games to turn the offense around after the bye before getting benched.

He's playing like a guy scared to lose his job again and with his nature of conservativeness, that might end up costing him the job.

My thought as well.

We are never going to have impeccable protection and number 1 receivers across the board. If you look at the film he doesn't take advantage of what is there often. A QB that makes a quick decision helps the Oline. I always believed Chase Daniel could do better. I'm not sure Foles or Bray can but if the offense keeps this up its worth a shot.

Unless he turns it around this better be the last year of Alex.

Reid needs to give up play calling duties as well

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Aspengc8 Veteran Join Date: Dec 2005 Casino cash: $9950632	Alex missing reads Just a few sample clips from the Steelers game. First series with a little curl/flat concept. Slot sits right in the middle for a easy 5 yars, instead of forcing to JC. Spoiler! Next play, it doesnt look like Alex gets any depth on his sprint out. Conley comes free over the middle. Spoiler! Bottom of screen conley 1v1, gotta take that shot Spoiler! If alex keeps his eyes down field kelce is wide open Spoiler! I will add some more as I get more time. Last edited by Aspengc8; 10-05-2016 at 12:10 PM..
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