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Old 02-06-2020, 09:45 PM  
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How to play this off-season with free agency?

I don't know the cap space that well so people smarter will have to tell me what we can do. I'm just excited to see how good this team can get. All the building blocks are in place. It's a matter of how we can supplement the pieces. And I know retain the big pieces is most important.

So assuming we can keep Chris Jones and give Pat an extension, will we have any room at all in the cap to make impact additions? Keeping Sammy looks unlikely. Not sure how many of our corners we can keep?

Even if we play it perfect, will there be any cap left to add some vet free agents? It seems like a pretty strong offensive line class in free agency if we could add one or two. Or if we could add an LB (although Hitchens make a lot). Or a vet corner? Trade possibilities?

I'm just trying to get a realistic grid of what potential moves we can make. I know hitting on picks in the draft will be the biggest way to improve. But if we can get some discounted vets or something, that could go a long way into having freedom in drafting more luxury picks.
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Old 02-07-2020, 11:49 AM   #91
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Eric Berry & Anthony Hitchens are taking up about $21M of cap space for 2020 season. That’s brutal.
Berry's spirit continues to haunt this team.
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Old 02-07-2020, 11:52 AM   #92
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Jones talked a LOT after the Superbowl. He said he wants to stay here for his career and was confident that Veech would get something done.

He is the most important player on our defense.
Given the depth we have at each level, I would suggest that Matheiu is the most important player on our defense.

Of course, he’ll say that. He only hurts his value by saying otherwise.
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Old 02-07-2020, 11:55 AM   #93
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It would certainly help if we got a 1st for Jones and used those 2 1st rd picks on Watkins and Jones replacements.
No, a CB and WR
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Old 02-07-2020, 11:57 AM   #94
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Mahomes deal will get done after the draft. CBA should get done before March 18. This is gonna be very interesting

Hopefully Steinberg is willing to play ball here a little.

Sit Steinberg, Mahomes, Veach, and Andy together in a room and figure out how to make this work so Pat can get the compensation he’s earned while allowing Veach and Reid to keep pieces around him.

Talk it out and come to a scenario where everybody wins.
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:00 PM   #95
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Hopefully Steinberg is willing to play ball here a little.

Sit Steinberg, Mahomes, Veach, and Andy together in a room and figure out how to make this work so Pat can get the compensation he’s earned while allowing Veach and Reid to keep pieces around him.

Talk it out and come to a scenario where everybody wins.
The NFL would shit their pants if Mahomes figured out a team friendly deal. Could you imagine paying Mahomes like Brady was paid in NE? There would be riots in the streets. NE got away with it because Brady wasn't anything like Pat in his first years at QB.
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:00 PM   #96
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Hopefully Steinberg is willing to play ball here a little.

Sit Steinberg, Mahomes, Veach, and Andy together in a room and figure out how to make this work so Pat can get the compensation he’s earned while allowing Veach and Reid to keep pieces around him.

Talk it out and come to a scenario where everybody wins.
Apparently Steinberg won’t let Mahomes play next season without a new deal
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No, I wouldn't take more money to go to a less rewarding situation (assuming I already had more than enough).

And I know I'd be in the minority among these greedy bastards, but I'd definitely be the type to take a big hometown discount to stay with Reid/Mahomes and build a dynasty.

The d-bags need to realize that they're already far wealthier than they have any right to be.
Jones has been paid about $6.2 million total for 4 years. Don’t get me wrong, that’s a lot more employment income than most of us will ever see. But it is chump change for a guy who is one of the best at his job in the NFL. Guess we shall see if he will do a discount. If not, they have to figure out a trade.
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:01 PM   #98
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Jones is tagged then traded to the Seahawks for their 2020 first round pick (27) and their 2021 fourth rounder. Now with two first round picks, KC moves back by trading their own first round pick (32) to Atlanta in exchange for their 2020 second round pick (55), third round pick (78), and a future fourth rounder. That gives the Chiefs:

1st: 27
2nd: 55, 63
3rd: 78, 96
4th: 135
Plus Atlanta's and Seattle's 2021 fourth rounders.

Mahomes will be the highest paid player in the league, which is going to force the Chiefs to acquire more talent through the draft and less through free agency. I think Jones is gone unfortunately.
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Here's what I would try to do if I was the Chiefs...

Chris Jones is probably going to be moved, I'm going to try to get a 1 and a 3, preferably decently high picks.

Cut list
Watkins
LDT
Sorenson
Colquitt/possible retire here

Guys not returning that are FAs
Henne
Moore
McCoy
Robinson
Suggs/probably retirement here
Ogbah, ends get paid
Ragland
Lee
Fuller
Breeland
Lucas

So this does save the Chiefs lots of money but leaves some holes. Probably need to bring these guys back...

Pennell
Wisniewski
Bell
Sherman

So with that there is a bit of money to play with for FA and if you get solid picks for Jones you can hopefully target a CB late in round 1 and maybe just maybe things break your way and you get Simmons as I think that would really help the defense.
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The NFL would shit their pants if Mahomes figured out a team friendly deal. Could you imagine paying Mahomes like Brady was paid in NE? There would be riots in the streets. NE got away with it because Brady wasn't anything like Pat in his first years at QB.
Brady was given a record-breaking contract after his rookie deal. At the time, he was still a game manager. He started doing the discounts later in his career when he developed into an elite QB.
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Mahomes also isn’t married to the #1 super model in the world and she gets paid way more than Tom does.
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He is almost a 6 million dollar cap hit, can you justify that for a 3rd safety?
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Old 02-07-2020, 12:06 PM   #104
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He is almost a 6 million dollar cap hit, can you justify that for a 3rd safety?
This is 100% correct. A little too costly for what he actually is.
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Brady was given a record-breaking contract after his rookie deal. At the time, he was still a game manager. He started doing the discounts later in his career when he developed into an elite QB.
He was also a 6th round pick who hadn’t made shit up until that point in his career.
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