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Old 04-09-2020, 10:38 AM  
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:26 AM   #91
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Here's a wacky question for youse guys ...

What would it take to trade up for Simmons?

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A LOT.

Too much.
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:26 AM   #92
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Gotta love these moves. The one position of "need" that has not been addressed with a quality starter or better than we had is IOL.
Umm LB?
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:26 AM   #93
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Here's a wacky question for youse guys ...

What would it take to trade up for Simmons?

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More than we have without throwing in future 1st round picks and maybe even still Jones.
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:27 AM   #94
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:27 AM   #95
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I think there's a strong possibility now that some of these 1-year deals are really bridge contracts, eventually leading to long-term contracts once the cap goes goes up and some of the higher cost contracts go away. Hitchens for example might be traded or cut after next year. Anyway, my point is that this season might be just "sign these guys to 1-year deals for now, and get them signed to a longer deal in 2021" type of thing.

One thing to remember is that Veach saw how things were going to fall out cap-wise BEFORE he made the deals with Clark and Mathieu and so on, and probably had some kind of plan to deal with it coming into this season.
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Umm LB?
Yep geez how could I forget that.
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:27 AM   #97
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To throw another comp out there Kenneth Murray is a lot like Demario Davis, who is a really good player, it's why him making it to 32 is a pipe dream in my view.
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:28 AM   #98
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You wanna get into the top 10?

He's going somewhere between 3 and 8 is my guess.
So ...

Assuming we don't murder-for-hire somebody ...

How many pick-things will it take?

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Old 04-09-2020, 11:28 AM   #99
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Umm LB?

yeah I don't think it changes our needs so much as it allows flexibility per round.

LB, IOL are now the two most dire spots, and CB is still right in there.
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:28 AM   #100
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This dead on , if this could happen defense would kick ass
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:28 AM   #101
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What would it take to trade up for Simmons?

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Probably would have to trade Jones for a top 10 pick (which we probably wouldn’t get), then trade both firsts and maybe a mid round pick for a top 5 to get him.

Not worth it. I’d rather have Jones and the picks. If Simmons busts, it would go down as one of the worst trades ever.
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Old 04-09-2020, 11:29 AM   #102
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So ...

Assuming we don't murder-for-hire somebody ...

How many pick-things will it take?

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Uh...2 1's and probably a 2 and a 3 and probably more. You'd be paying a franchise QB type of cost.

I love Simmons talent, I love his versatility and I love that he grew up down the street but it's not feasable.
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With the likelihood that Murray and Queen gone before our pick at 32 we will might be looking at Ruiz. We can get a LB like Harrison or Gay in the 2cd or 3rd round.
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Unbelievable. I didn't expect him to get one year. Thought he would undoubtedly get a 2 or 3 year deal being that he's been on a one-year deal for the last couple of years if I recall.
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I think there's a strong possibility now that some of these 1-year deals are really bridge contracts, eventually leading to long-term contracts once the cap goes goes up and some of the higher cost contracts go away. Hitchens for example might be traded or cut after next year. Anyway, my point is that this season might be just "sign these guys to 1-year deals for now, and get them signed to a longer deal in 2021" type of thing.

One thing to remember is that Veach saw how things were going to fall out cap-wise BEFORE he made the deals with Clark and Mathieu and so on, and probably had some kind of plan to deal with it coming into this season.
More than a mere possibility, Mr. Megatron96 ...

The handwriting is on the wall and it spells "Dynasty".

Somebody get Wally on a damn diet.

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