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Old 01-24-2022, 01:57 PM   #1
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Old 01-24-2022, 02:17 PM   #2
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Old 01-24-2022, 04:18 PM   #3
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I posted something similar to this last night.

The overtime inequity thing always pissed me off, until I heard Colin Cowherd say something about it that really made sense. Nobody can say that it wasn't fair their team lost in OT, because that team had a full 60 minutes of game time to avoid OT. How can you argue with that? There's always one dropped pass, one stalled drive, one missed block, one failure to execute, one boneheaded play call, one missed field goal or extra point, that results in points not being scored, and in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter if it happens in the first quarter or with time expiring in the fourth. Points are points. I'd believe this regardless of yesterday's ultimate outcome. Win or lose, I'll never whine about it again.

Also, three years ago I paid $500 for a nosebleed seat and drove a thousand mile round trip in a ****ing blizzard to watch the Chiefs get screwed by a coin the exact same way. So anybody bitching about it today can kiss my ass.
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I posted something similar to this last night.

The overtime inequity thing always pissed me off, until I heard Colin Cowherd say something about it that really made sense. Nobody can say that it wasn't fair their team lost in OT, because that team had a full 60 minutes of game time to avoid OT. How can you argue with that? There's always one dropped pass, one stalled drive, one missed block, one failure to execute, one boneheaded play call, one missed field goal or extra point, that results in points not being scored, and in the grand scheme of things, it doesn't really matter if it happens in the first quarter or with time expiring in the fourth. Points are points. I'd believe this regardless of yesterday's ultimate outcome. Win or lose, I'll never whine about it again.

Also, three years ago I paid $500 for a nosebleed seat and drove a thousand mile round trip in a ****ing blizzard to watch the Chiefs get screwed by a coin the exact same way. So anybody bitching about it today can kiss my ass.
Every play matters. Buffalo defense was well-rested in the first half. They allowed Mahomes to pull some magical 3rd down conversions on 2 TD drives in the first half. Stop him on some of those 3rd downs and KC loses in regulation. Buffalo had plenty of chances to win before overtime. They were even helped along with Butker missing 4 points on 2 kicks.
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Old 01-24-2022, 05:33 PM   #5
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“That, I’m sure, is something they’re going to look at again,” Reid said. “I wouldn’t be opposed to it. That’s a hard thing. It was great for us last night, but is it great for the game, which is the most important thing we should all be looking out for? To make things equal, it probably needs to be able to hit both offenses, both defenses.”
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Old 01-24-2022, 04:32 PM   #6
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A lot of people saying we got lucky because we won the toss. And that's probably true.

The Bills got lucky when they fumbled and the ball bounced right back to Allen.
The Bills got lucky they didn't get called for holding Sneed on the opening TD play.
The Bills got lucky they didn't get called at least once for 2 or 3 illegal hits on Patrick.
The Bills got lucky that we missed a FG.
The Bills got lucky that we missed an XP.


So it all evens out I guess in the end, right?
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A lot of people saying we got lucky because we won the toss. And that's probably true.

The Bills got lucky when they fumbled and the ball bounced right back to Allen.
The Bills got lucky they didn't called for holding Sneed on the opening TD play.
The Bills got lucky they didn't called at least once for 2 or 3 illegal hits on Patrick.
The Bills got lucky that we missed a FG.
The Bills got lucky that we missed an XP.


So it all evens out I guess in the end, right?
The Buffalo fumble also led to a punt that put KC at the 1 yard line. Basically a 60 yard shift in field position on a lucky bounce with the fumble recovery.
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Old 01-24-2022, 04:41 PM   #8
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'fixing' this issue is logically appealing to those that haven't dedicated much thought to it. Cheap clicks.

You had 60 minutes (which in some respects is actually 3 hours) to demonstrate you were the better team. Chance is going to be involved eventually. Hell, the coin toss is part of the tiebreaker at the end of the season if all other things are equal.

I'd agree it was shit when it was only a FG. But now? If you lose the toss, you only have to stop a TD if you want your QB to have the ball.

I don't normally participate in the Chiefs-getting-disrespected stuff as I don't watch sports channels besides the actual games and I don't read many American articles, but it sure feels like there's a broader base of people gnashing the teeth about this than there were 4 years ago. It was in one of our papers yesterday.
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Old 01-24-2022, 04:57 PM   #9
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It’s a stupid rule. We got screwed last time and the Bills did this time. Still very happy and deserved karma for us but it can’t be right that one QB can never even get a chance to put right their D letting the side down.

If it’s about player safety and injuries make it for knockout games only and scrap OT altogether in the regular season and have draws be a result.
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They had two big chances to stop us. 13 seconds and a full drive in PT. If you can't then you are not going to be champ and shouldn't be champ.
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Alot of people are saying it is the coin toss they find objectionable. They hate that the game is decided on a coin toss, which based on the stats posted a bit ago seems to be somewhat relevant in the playoffs where the great offenses are shooting it out. How about making it a game stat metric like time holding the lead. If you have the lead for most of the game, especially if a team is making a comeback and gets a game tying field goal to go to OT, then why shouldn't the comeback team have to defend first. Seems as fair as any other reason that isn't luck of a coin flip. I can't think of anything in football that would equate to a jump ball and actually be somewhat fair.
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Alot of people are saying it is the coin toss they find objectionable. They hate that the game is decided on a coin toss, which based on the stats posted a bit ago seems to be somewhat relevant in the playoffs where the great offenses are shooting it out. How about making it a game stat metric like time holding the lead. If you have the lead for most of the game, especially if a team is making a comeback and gets a game tying field goal to go to OT, then why shouldn't the comeback team have to defend first. Seems as fair as any other reason that isn't luck of a coin flip. I can't think of anything in football that would equate to a jump ball and actually be somewhat fair.
The entire loss is on Allen. He called the toss.
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The entire loss is on Allen. He called the toss.
I bet his last words before he dies will be "why didn't I call heads?"
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Alot of people are saying it is the coin toss they find objectionable. They hate that the game is decided on a coin toss, which based on the stats posted a bit ago seems to be somewhat relevant in the playoffs where the great offenses are shooting it out. How about making it a game stat metric like time holding the lead. If you have the lead for most of the game, especially if a team is making a comeback and gets a game tying field goal to go to OT, then why shouldn't the comeback team have to defend first. Seems as fair as any other reason that isn't luck of a coin flip. I can't think of anything in football that would equate to a jump ball and actually be somewhat fair.
I say do the OT coin toss before the game right after the Opening Kickoff coin toss while captains are still at midfield.

If the entire game is played with both teams knowing the result of the OT coin toss, then there would be so much less of this talk about how unfair and random it is for the team winning the OT coin toss and receiving the OT kickoff scoring a TD and ending the game before the other team touches ball.

What is the argument against my proposal to decide the OT coin toss winner before opening kickoff?

You could even have it where OT coin toss winner is known but does not have to decide between receiving or goal to defend until games goes to OT, in case there is extreme weather and goal to defend is possibly the preferred choice.
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