Chiefs Tush Push - Page 7

Marada · 02-05-2025, 11:14 AM

Ok, lot of great minds out there so lets have at it. How do the Chiefs stop the tush push. My thinking is to line 2 interior linemen on each side of the center. Right behind them with a slight angle to the center are 2 more big body linemen. All eyes are watching the ball. As soon as it starts moving, the 2 columns push forward. The behind linemen pushing the forward linemen. The ends seal the edge while line backers, corners and safeties watch for a pass.

**wazu** · 05-20-2025, 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Vladimir_Kyrilytch

I don't watch rugby. Its gay. I ain't gonna watch the NFL version of rugby either. I just won't. This isn't a sport it's a ****ing abomination.

Rugby is for bundle of stickss. I'll watch figure skating instead. Bit more masculine.

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You wear high heels and watch Pokémon card pack opening streams on twitch. You are so gay that anything you don't like is de facto not gay.

-King- · 05-20-2025, 08:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Defense can't do the same. We can't shove Jones into the center, it's illegal.
Thats a good reason to ban it.

What? Who says defense can't do it?

-King- · 05-20-2025, 08:08 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Ban it or at least alter it in a way that the defense has a fair chance such as what has already been suggested.

If it's such an unfair play, why the **** aren't the other 31 teams running it?

-King- · 05-20-2025, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Really? I somehow had no idea this was a rule.

He's almost certainly thinking of the special teams rule. There's no rule defensive players can't push each other.

kccrow · 05-20-2025, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

Defense can't do the same. We can't shove Jones into the center, it's illegal.
Thats a good reason to ban it.

This is untrue. It's only a penalty to push a teammate into the offensive formation when they are set up to kick or punt.

Red Dawg · 05-20-2025, 08:25 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

What? Who says defense can't do it?

Stink says it is.

So I would tell you, if you lined up on the defensive side of the ball with linebackers sitting behind defensive tackles and linebackers shoving defensive tackles through the line of scrimmage, I think that’s illegal. You can’t do it. So why is it okay for the offensive side of the ball to be able to do that, but the defensive or special team side of the ball you can’t do it?”

**wazu** · 05-20-2025, 08:28 AM

Hey ChatGPT - In the NFL, is it legal for defensive players to bunch up and push each other forward to drive back the offensive line and stuff a runner?

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No, it is not legal in the NFL for defensive players to bunch up and push each other forward to drive back the offensive line and stuff a runner.

According to NFL Rule 9, Section 1, Article 3(b)(2), defensive players (Team B) are prohibited from pushing teammates on the line of scrimmage into the offensive formation. Violating this rule results in a 15-yard penalty for unnecessary roughness.

This rule was implemented in 2013 to enhance player safety, particularly during field goal and extra point attempts. The NFL Competition Committee observed that defensive players pushing teammates into the offensive line created excessive force, leading to increased injury risks for offensive linemen.

While this rule specifically addresses special teams situations, the overarching principle of preventing players from pushing teammates into the offensive formation applies broadly to maintain player safety across all plays.

In summary, defensive players are not permitted to push each other forward to penetrate the offensive line, as it violates NFL rules designed to protect player safety.

tredadda · 05-20-2025, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by -King-

If it's such an unfair play, why the **** aren't the other 31 teams running it?

Don’t know why other teams don’t do it. Just give the defense the same opportunity to push themselves into the line as well.

Red Dawg · 05-20-2025, 08:32 AM

So it's illegal on special teams but legal for the rest of the game? That's stupid.

**wazu** · 05-20-2025, 08:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Red Dawg

So it's illegal on special teams but legal for the rest of the game? That's stupid.

No, it's illegal on defense. You were correct, take a victory lap.

Shields68 · 05-20-2025, 08:37 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu

No, it's illegal on defense. You were correct, take a victory lap.

Think it is a very fine line, I have never seen it called in a Tush Push, QB sneak... at some point the intent is not pushing the Defensive player into the formation but rather stopping the offense from going forward in a pile.

Red Dawg · 05-20-2025, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by kccrow

This is untrue. It's only a penalty to push a teammate into the offensive formation when they are set up to kick or punt.

Wrong. It's illegal.

-King- · 05-20-2025, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by tredadda

Don’t know why other teams don’t do it. Just give the defense the same opportunity to push themselves into the line as well.

They do

-King- · 05-20-2025, 09:07 AM

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Originally Posted by wazu

Hey ChatGPT - In the NFL, is it legal for defensive players to bunch up and push each other forward to drive back the offensive line and stuff a runner?

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Rule #9 is for scrimmage kicks

https://operations.nfl.com/the-rules/nfl-rulebook/

htismaqe · 05-20-2025, 09:54 AM

Why do people care so much?

The play itself is ****ing boring. Ban it, don't ban it, who cares?

02-05-2025, 11:14 AM
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