Cardinals ***Offical 2010 STL Cardinals Baseball Thread *** - Page 70

**BigRedChief** · 01-05-2010, 09:39 PM

Holliday signs. The Deal is Done. $120 Million over 7 years.
http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?...=.jsp&c_id=stl

Signed or controlled for the next 2 years

Shumaker 2B
Rasmus CF
Pujols 1B
Holliday LF
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Freese 3B
Ryan SS
And 2 CY Young caliber starting pitchers
Carp and Wainwright P

We get Lohse or Garcia to step up and be a reliable 3rd starter in the playoffs we can win a World Series with this line up.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-11-2010, 08:41 PM

Motte, Holliday, and Ryan can all drown in a vat of syphilis pus.

**BigRedChief** · 05-11-2010, 08:41 PM

WTF happened to Ryan and Shu? How can you fall that fast?

DJ's left nut · 05-11-2010, 08:42 PM

We should've just kept Duncan.

Holliday couldn't look more like Duncan in the field and at the plate if he tried.

DJ's left nut · 05-11-2010, 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

WTF happened to Ryan and Shu? How can you fall that fast?

'Big league.'

Skip got his money and knows he's his managers pet project. He can suck as much dick as he wants and he's still starting.

Ryan has been acting bulletproof all season. He survived Khalil Greene and doesn't think Flip will get a shot at his gig.

Ryan and Skip are what you get when career minor leaguers don't have someone pressing them. If they don't use every single bit of talent they have, they're just not major league caliber. Without someone pushing them, they don't give it their all and they'll play like minor leaguers.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 05-11-2010, 08:52 PM

They were never that ****ing good, anyway.

DJ's left nut · 05-11-2010, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

They were never that ****ing good, anyway.

That's my point.

Chase Utley and Hanley Ramirez can go at 80% and still be plus players.

If Skip Schumaker and Brendan Ryan aren't busting their ass on every play and in every AB, they're just minor leaguers.

They absolutely cannot believe their jobs are safe. Those two guys need to wake up every morning believing that Lopez and/or Greene can relegate them to bench players again.

This is on LaRussa. He's allowed two marginal major leaguers to feel comfortable and that's completely unacceptable.

Frazod · 05-11-2010, 09:06 PM

Ugh.

DJ's left nut · 05-12-2010, 06:36 PM

And Ryan throws another one away.

Stop throwing like Dan Quisenberry.

**BigRedChief** · 05-12-2010, 06:41 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

And Ryan throws another one away.

Stop throwing like Dan Quisenberry.

He's been throwing like that for a long time and he was in the discussion for a gold glove. It's obvious that his hitting slump is effecting his defense now. That'll get you sent to the minors. He's got one trip down left. When Lopez comes back, sned him down.

On the other hand it was nice to see Halliday come through with a clutch hit for a change.

**BigRedChief** · 05-12-2010, 07:20 PM

jesus h christ WTF happened to our offense?

whoman69 · 05-12-2010, 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

jesus h christ WTF happened to our offense?

I think they're trying to fit everyone into the same cubbyhole. You can't just give one set of instructions to all players and figure it will work out. Not everybody can take the ball and drive it opposite field like they are being asked to do. They've expanded their strike zone instead of waiting for their pitch. This team depends too much on home runs to score.

Miles · 05-13-2010, 03:25 AM

What the hell has happened to Ryan from last year. I get that he is pressing but seems to want to lead the team in unearned runs.

I do find this ripping on Holliday and particularly the comparisons to Duncan quite amusing.

**BigRedChief** · 05-13-2010, 06:07 AM

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Originally Posted by whoman69

I think they're trying to fit everyone into the same cubbyhole. You can't just give one set of instructions to all players and figure it will work out. Not everybody can take the ball and drive it opposite field like they are being asked to do. They've expanded their strike zone instead of waiting for their pitch. This team depends too much on home runs to score.

Expanding their strike zones and not being more displined at the plate is not McGuires fault.

Frazod · 05-13-2010, 07:59 AM

I think Ryan must be on Dusty Baker's payroll. And if he isn't, he should be.

**BigRedChief** · 05-13-2010, 08:24 AM

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Originally Posted by frazod

I think Ryan must be on Dusty Baker's payroll. And if he isn't, he should be.

Dusty Baker? You look in the rear view mirror lately? It's Cincy on our tails and we got a 3 game set with them starting tommorrow in Cincy.

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Miles MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $-1747600	What the hell has happened to Ryan from last year. I get that he is pressing but seems to want to lead the team in unearned runs. I do find this ripping on Holliday and particularly the comparisons to Duncan quite amusing.
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05-13-2010, 07:59 AM	#1049
Frazod Did you hear what I said? Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $-876615	I think Ryan must be on Dusty Baker's payroll. And if he isn't, he should be.
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