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Jakemall · 08-13-2013, 11:24 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

He starts to break on it and stops 5 yards from where McCluster would be if AS threw that ball. Keep in mind he's rolling to his right, arm isn't even cocked, and with 2 defenders in his face. How much zip is he going to put on that to travel 20+ yards that that defender isn't going to make a break on it?

Alex COULD have made a throw...but it would have to be a floater with a defender in his face and short..so that he could be sure that McCluster would have a step on the DB. McCluster would have been slammed after the catch. It's preseason. And that wasn't 3rd down...he didn't need to force it.

To be fair, The pass I'm talking about would be near the sidelines and wouldn't have been across his body.

Sandy Vagina · 08-13-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

Alex COULD have made a throw...but it would have to be a floater with a defender in his face and short..so that he could be sure that McCluster would have a step on the DB. McCluster would have been slammed after the catch. It's preseason. And that wasn't 3rd down...he didn't need to force it.

I think some are just ticked off that Alex didn't force a bad play.

**mdchiefsfan** · 08-13-2013, 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

Nah, the difference was Manning threw across his body whereas Smith wouldn't have.

9er guy · 08-13-2013, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

You can really tell who has actually played football in their life by reading some of the posts in this thread.

Throwing the ball across your body on the run is a terrible idea.

Go look at Peyton Manning's INT in OT that sealed the Broncos season last year. Same exact situation. The difference was that Manning was stupid enough to try to make the throw.

If you look at where McCluster is when he throws the ball out of bounds. There's a path to the right of Smith, not to the left, to throw the ball.

On the Peyton Manning pick, the WR is going the opposite way.

In this clip both guys are traveling in the same direction.

Again, my contention is there is a play to me made, you're just going to have to take a hit right in the chops.

GoChargers · 08-13-2013, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Kaepernick

The sad thing is it doesn't take Manning, Brady or Brees to complete that pass. That is a complete Phillip Rivers, Carson Palmer, Andy Dalton, or Sam Bradford. You know, the average/below average QBs.

To be fair, the new pussified Rivers would manage to do something like this:

jd1020 · 08-13-2013, 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

This is throwing across your body, Einstein...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/denver-bro...-pulls-a-Favre

Both Favre and Manning stopped their momentum to hit someone in the middle who was going the opposite way. McCluster was running with Smith with wide open field in front of him. All Smith had to do was flip it out in front of McCluster and he would not have been throwing across his body.

**J Diddy** · 08-13-2013, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Jakemall

Alex COULD have made a throw...but it would have to be a floater with a defender in his face and short..so that he could be sure that McCluster would have a step on the DB. McCluster would have been slammed after the catch. It's preseason. And that wasn't 3rd down...he didn't need to force it.

To be fair, The pass I'm talking about would be near the sidelines and wouldn't have been across his body.

I didn't say anything about throwing across his body. Rolling to the right (without planting, because face it if he plants he gets blasted) wouldn't have had anything on it. That db was waiting for that.

Jakemall · 08-13-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

This is throwing across your body, Einstein...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/denver-bro...-pulls-a-Favre

Both Favre and Manning stopped their momentum to hit someone in the middle who was going the opposite way. McCluster was running with Smith with wide open field in front of him. All Smith had to do was flip it out in front of McCluster and he would not have been throwing across his body.

Half true.... It wouldn't have been throwing across his body as I mentioned earlier, but it sure as heck would not be "just flip it out" either.

milkman · 08-13-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 9er guy

At this point in his career. His skill set is what it is.

He's going to be good at the stuff he's good at and bad at the stuff he's bad at.

I don't think pre-season is the only time you're going to see some of those throws. You guys will be debating ALL SEASON about this guy.

I don't believe that.
He has the arm to make that throw.
He lacks the confidence.

That goes to mindset.

That can be changed.

**mdchiefsfan** · 08-13-2013, 11:32 AM

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Originally Posted by jd1020

This is throwing across your body, Einstein...

http://www.nfl.com/videos/denver-bro...-pulls-a-Favre

Both Favre and Manning stopped their momentum to hit someone in the middle who was going the opposite way. McCluster was running with Smith with wide open field in front of him. All Smith had to do was flip it out in front of McCluster and he would not have been throwing across his body.

Throwing across your body is throwing the opposite way from which you are running, which is exactly what would have happened here.

jd1020 · 08-13-2013, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

Throwing across your body is throwing the opposite way from which you are running, which is exactly what would have happened here.

... You're an idiot. Get back to me when you understand the concept of leading your target.

Jakemall · 08-13-2013, 11:34 AM

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Originally Posted by J Diddy

I didn't say anything about throwing across his body. Rolling to the right (without planting, because face it if he plants he gets blasted) wouldn't have had anything on it. That db was waiting for that.

Like I said...a floater. I was addressing some of the other posts on the throwing across his body. I don't think we're spcifically in disagreement. Alex played it right in my mind.

Sandy Vagina · 08-13-2013, 11:36 AM

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Originally Posted by milkman

I don't believe that.
He has the arm to make that throw.
He lacks the confidence.

That goes to mindset.

That can be changed.

There is truth to this. He doesn't have an elite arm to feel great about throwing that particular pass... certainly not when he doesn't need to. So, he threw it away, and still did what needed to be done for a Chiefs TD.

L.A. Chieffan · 08-13-2013, 11:39 AM

Smith just needed a system and a coach that believed in him. Now he has both. Finishing in the top five QBS this year isn't out of the question.

9er guy · 08-13-2013, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by L.A. Chieffan

Smith just needed a system and a coach that believed in him. Now he has both. Finishing in the top five QBS this year isn't out of the question.

In terms of rating. Yes. Touchdowns? No.

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