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So we can agree that Durant has no REAL championships and LeBron only has 1 REAL championship right?
If that's the case then no way LeBron can be in the conversation for GOAT with only 1 real ring that he should be "comfortable" with. |
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And considering championships are a team accomplishment, it really has very little bearing on his GOAT status (which is already assured). Otherwise Bill Russell would be considered the GOAT when he is very clearly not. |
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LeBron felt pretty bad about his superteam in Miami and returned to Cleveland, I guess. Those 2 titles in Miami don't count.
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Because Harden is a far better offensive player than Giannis (11.4 OWS to 8.9, 10.5 OBPM to 5.7 this year). Like it isn't even close.
Giannis' defence in combination with his offense is what makes him one of the best players in the league, but his offense doesn't even come close to Harden. Harden is one of the greatest offensive players to ever play this sport. Quote:
If you were going to craft a system to beat Golden State with less talent (and everyone has less talent), Houston is literally the perfect example of how to do it. The Bucks might be slightly better overall than Houston (although even that is unclear), but they certainly aren't built to beat the Warriors. |
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Indeed, LeBron's move to Cleveland was done to win more championships and not waste his prime. If he saw a route to do that in Miami with his best friend in the league, he clearly would have done that instead. Durant's move to New York would not be to win more championships (because that certainly wouldn't be improved at all), it would be to save the legacy that he destroyed by joining the 73 win Warriors in the first place. |
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And funny how you only use the metrics you like to support your harden vs giannis argument. And I was using playoff metrics because we're talking about playoffs. Using your metrics in the playoffs Giannis has 1.2 OWS and 11.2 BPM. Harden had 1 OWS and 8.5 BPM. So yeah like i said, Giannis is the way better offensive superstar. |
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Or he just wanted to find a #2 player that was actually still a quality NBA player and not completely washed like Wade was so as not to waste his age prime on a team that had no shot.
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Sure. It's all about perspective. LeBron and Durant are both soft bitches for what they've done in their respective careers in my eyes. One is just much better at it than the other.
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Switched metrics? I literally cited OBPM in the original post comparing the two. Just re-emphasizing just how far apart these guys are offensively when Harden isn't choking out.
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You're really scrambling right now. |
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