Chiefs Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel - Page 71

**DaFace** · 04:32 PM

Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me.

https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel

REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel
New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday.
By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT

Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.”

The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.”

More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo:

Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.”

This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg.

Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week.

Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos.

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Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann:

A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition.

The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well.

The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself.

Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function.

These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is.

Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side.

Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some.

For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period.

If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level.

**notorious** · 10-24-2018, 04:10 PM

If he helps this team win a Super Bowl I will forget that he missed nearly half of the games in his career.

patteeu · 10-24-2018, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I haven’t kept track, but he’s currently listed as a starter on the depth chart. Is that usually the case?

Well, since he's day-to-day, he could be back at any moment, so it makes sense to just keep him listed as the starter. Website edits aren't free.

GloryDayz · 10-24-2018, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

The dude beat cancer, you think he gives a **** what folks on a ****ing message board think about him? haha

I think it's pretty clear that the bun-ass **** doesn't care about much beyond money.

**chiefforlife** · 10-25-2018, 11:11 AM

Man, this is getting old. Come On!!

Eric Berry - DB - Chiefs

Eric Berry (heel) did not practice Thursday.
Berry has yet to play this season, and it is fair to wonder why he was kept on the active roster at the beginning of the year. Justin Houston (hamstring) also remains out.
Source: Brooke Pryor on Twitter
Oct 25 - 12:55 PM

OKchiefs · 10-25-2018, 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Man, this is getting old. Come On!!

Eric Berry - DB - Chiefs

Eric Berry (heel) did not practice Thursday.
Berry has yet to play this season, and it is fair to wonder why he was kept on the active roster at the beginning of the year. Justin Houston (hamstring) also remains out.
Source: Brooke Pryor on Twitter
Oct 25 - 12:55 PM

Almost $35 million combined for absolutely ****ing nothing from those two.

patteeu · 10-25-2018, 11:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Man, this is getting old. Come On!!

Eric Berry - DB - Chiefs

Eric Berry (heel) did not practice Thursday.
Berry has yet to play this season, and it is fair to wonder why he was kept on the active roster at the beginning of the year. Justin Houston (hamstring) also remains out.
Source: Brooke Pryor on Twitter
Oct 25 - 12:55 PM

Relax. Andy Reid said just yesterday that he’s making progress so it should be any day now. Haha

**chiefforlife** · 10-25-2018, 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by patteeu

Relax. Andy Reid said just yesterday that he’s making progress so it should be any day now. Haha

Just once, I would love to hear Andy say, "We have no ****ing idea when or if Berry will play, ask HIM for Christs sake."

htismaqe · 10-25-2018, 11:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

Relax. Andy Reid said just yesterday that he’s making progress so it should be any day now. Haha

MIAdragon · 10-25-2018, 11:30 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeyChuckles

I think it's only their moms that lurk.

Don’t forget wives too.

OKchiefs · 10-25-2018, 11:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefforlife

Just once, I would love to hear Andy say, "We have no ****ing idea when or if Berry will play, ask HIM for Christs sake."

I'd love to hear Berry ****ing speak for a change.

In58men · 10-25-2018, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

I'd love to hear Berry ****ing speak for a change.

Why?

So he can say “I’m making progress and everyday I’m feeling more and more better”

OKchiefs · 10-25-2018, 11:49 AM

Wasn't Houston's injury projected as a 2-3 week recovery? This is the third week, so barring the team being full of shit on injuries as they often are, his overpaid ass should be on the field next week.

patteeu · 10-25-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by OKchiefs

Wasn't Houston's injury projected as a 2-3 week recovery? This is the third week, so barring the team being full of shit on injuries as they often are, his overpaid ass should be on the field next week.

I don't remember that. You might be right, but all I ever heard was "multiple week" and I'm not sure that came from the team.

Sassy Squatch · 10-25-2018, 11:59 AM

Can't wait until the day he's cut.

OKchiefs · 10-25-2018, 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by patteeu

I don't remember that. You might be right, but all I ever heard was "multiple week" and I'm not sure that came from the team.

Well using my MD from www.google.com, it appears a grade 1 strain has a roughly 3 week recovery time. A grade 2 is 4-8 weeks, so based on that I'd assume Houston has the grade 1 variety.

09-29-2018, 01:06 PM
DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $526899	Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel Yes, it's in the other thread. Bite me. https://www.arrowheadpride.com/2018/...ty-on-his-heel REPORT: Eric Berry has a Haglund’s deformity on his heel New information on Berry’s sore heel injury emerged on Saturday. By Pete Sweeney Sep 29, 2018, 1:15pm CDT Eric Berry has not practiced or played for the Kansas City Chiefs since August 11 in St. Joseph, Missouri, because of what the team has described as a “sore heel.” The last we heard from the Chiefs athletic training staff was in early September, when head athletic trainer Rick Burkholder described the injury as “literally day to day.” More information on Berry’s injury emerged Saturday morning, via NFL Network’s Mike Garafolo: Mike Garafolo: “My understanding, and I’ve spoken to people familiar with his injury situation. He’s got what’s called a Haglund’s deformity in that Achilles. That’s a bone spur that basically digs into the Achilles. Shaun O’ Hara, our colleague at NFL Network, he had it. I spoke to him this week. He said it is extremely painful. He actually used a more colorful word that I won’t use here. It’s just something that continues to irritate the area. Some guys have been able to play with it—you get a shoe here or there, you can adjust … but that’s what’s going on. It’s going to be a pain management thing. It’s not like this thing will tear the Achilles necessarily. A lot of these cases don’t result in a tear, but that’s why with Berry right now, he has not played, and they’ve been doing OK. That’s going to allow them a little bit more patience with Berry, but it is extremely painful.” This provides a little more clarity than Berry’s injury simply being a “sore heel,” which is good, but what’s bad is there still seems to be no timetable. Remember, Berry missed nearly the entirety of the 2017 season due to a ruptured Achilles on the other leg. Chiefs head coach Andy Reid was mum on the injury when asked about it Saturday afternoon after the Chiefs’ final practice of the week. Berry is officially ruled doubtful heading into the Monday night game against the Denver Broncos. ---- Here are the notes from our in-house medical expert, Aaron Borgmann: A lot of talk today regarding something known as a Haglund’s deformity. It was reported by a media source that the player in question suffers from this condition. This discussion is not to confirm or deny that possibility, as I can only explain the available information that we have been given. To be clear, the team has not confirmed this diagnosis and I have no advance knowledge of the player’s current condition. The simple explanation here that it is indeed a bone spur on the backside of someone’s heel. This is frequently known as a “pump bump” from the occurrence that it is often seen in women’s fashion from the shoes that they wear. However, incidence in football players is also common, sometimes referred to as “retrocalcaneal bursitis” as well. The bone spur irritates the bursa (fluid-filled sac) that sits between the bone and the tendon or even the tendon itself directly. This can cause a great deal of inflammation and discomfort with any sort of dynamic ankle/foot movement, worse with pressure on the spot itself. Having one in and of itself it not uncommon, but the degree to which it bothers someone is the issue. Depending upon demands of movement, these can range from debilitating to just a nuisance. Obviously, in football players, the degree of inflammation is what dictates the level of function. These are diagnosed both visually and radiographically and it is a situation where if you see it and player complains of certain symptoms (pain with movement in that exact spot, swelling, redness) then you can be pretty sure that is what it is. Treatment focuses on reduction of inflammation obviously directly over the spot. This can be done both topically and through systemic medication. Soft tissue lengthening in both the calf and bottom of the foot is also done to alleviate the issue from both sides – this is due to the fact that both the calf and plantar fascia connect to the calcaneus (heel bone) on either side. Not to be forgotten is footwear modification and adjustment. Very rigid shoes can cause this irritation, and in some athletes, I would even cut the shoe in the heel to allow room for the bump. Other options include specialized padding and friction reduction methods. Heel lifts have been shown to be helpful in some. For this condition, non-surgical intervention is preferred to reduce the inflammation as opposed to surgical due to the immobilization period. If the inflammation can be reduced and the function level high, many players learned to adapt their daily routines to accommodate. They may have to put in a bit more time in order to get ready due to the condition’s demands but can nonetheless get by and still perform at a high level. Last edited by DaFace; 09-29-2018 at 04:32 PM..
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