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Old 04-23-2019, 11:30 AM  
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:44 PM   #1066
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Veach created a massive hole by letting Houston and ford go. And then panicked, and gave the Seahawks whatever they wanted. That is the reality here.
The reality here is that you don't have any actual idea what you're talking about.
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:45 PM   #1067
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I had to quit reading this thread after three pages, some of you have completely lost your ****ing minds.
In what direction? Both?
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:45 PM   #1068
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:45 PM   #1069
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These Clark highlights look a hell of a lot like prime Justin Houston.
Good observation, i agree.
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:46 PM   #1070
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Sure, I've seen it inside. but from an EDGE? I've seen bull rushers shove guys into the pocket, but he ****ing throws guys! LOL

holy shit, man. He and Jones next to each other? F********CK.
Dancing the twist and stunt, as well.

This could be a lot of fun to watch.

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Old 04-23-2019, 04:47 PM   #1071
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The reality here is that you don't have any actual idea what you're talking about.
Another reality is that the majority of this board are such homers that they can’t see any wrong in what the organization does.
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:48 PM   #1072
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Damn, I don't understand why some yootoob videos don't play unless you "go" to yootoob.

What a bunch of inconsiderate dicks they have at yootoob. (It is their fault, right?)

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Old 04-23-2019, 04:48 PM   #1073
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What a bunch of inconsiderate dicks they have at yootoob. (It is their fault, right?)

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Old 04-23-2019, 04:48 PM   #1074
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Good observation, i agree.
That's fair. It's been awhile since we saw THAT Justin Houston; and my memory may be faulty, but I don't remember him being that VIOLENT off the snap. I mean Clark's first step isn't all that fast, but he just explodes into the guy across from him. It's quite something.
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:49 PM   #1075
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Veach created a massive hole by letting Houston and ford go. And then panicked, and gave the Seahawks whatever they wanted. That is the reality here.
Or, ya know, he didnt.

Perhaps he saw an aging justin houston who was vastly overpaid and misses 1/3 of the season every year.

Perhaps he saw Ford as an oft injured 3/4 OLB, who is a one trick pony, is too small for the current scheme, and only performed in contract years.

Then he saw a young, rising 4/3 end, who fits the new scheme, is a dominant player, and a guaranteed contributor NOW.

No brainer.
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:50 PM   #1076
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Another reality is that the majority of this board are such homers that they can’t see any wrong in what the organization does.
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:50 PM   #1077
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Another reality is that the majority of this board are such homers that they can’t see any wrong in what the organization does.
You're relatively new here. I've been here for almost 18 years.

I've been plenty critical at times.

THIS is a great move. For 2019, 2020, 2021.
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:51 PM   #1078
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I know, and maybe it's just because I watched DT his whole career (and knew him personally a little) Ford just always seemed a pale imitation. And all the injury problems, and the lack of football awareness, etc.

Good player, but not worth paying him what he's getting. Too one dimensional, and not on the field enough.

****ing Clark, though. He's a BEAST.
I'll give you credit. I remember reading your takes in December (ironically the day of the Seattle game in particular) about how Sutton should be replaced and we should move to a 4/3 and how Ford would be expendable in that scheme. Frankly, the thought of losing both him and Houston (the latter of whom I think is underrated) frightened me. And then we got rid of both of them and replaced them with some excellent defensive coaches and, frankly, JAGs.

Today, we got the guy you wanted as a replacement. A more well-rounded playmaker whom Veach has surrounded with more well-rounded depth. I think if you want to play the Ford vs Clark vs the picks vs the cap hit game, maybe it's a close call. But Ford was a deadweight loss as far as I can tell as he didn't fit into the Spags scheme and we got the guy to replace him. And that makes me so ****ing excited.

So this isn't about simple math. It's about who the defensive staff thinks can fill things out. And for those of you excited about the defensive coaching ensemble we've established, give them some rope.
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:51 PM   #1079
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In what direction? Both?
People claiming Veach should be fired, mostly.

I mean, I thought *I* was overly attached to draft picks. Some of y'all think they are more valuable than 25 year old proven talent. People have been bitching about the lack of a pass rush, then bitch when Veach acquires a Top 5 DE.

There's nothing in this draft we could have acquired for a similar price that will provide the impact Clark will.
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Old 04-23-2019, 04:51 PM   #1080
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Clarks history is that he is not ****ing Derrick Thomas. Ford led the league in Forced fumbles, and was top 10 in sacks. And you give that away PLUS a 1st round pick for a similar caliber player?
That may be a career year for Ford.. Clark’s arrow should be pointed up.. guess we’ll find out either way.. if this trade helps us get a Super Bowl then who cares?
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