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Old 01-24-2019, 04:33 PM  
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Chiefs hire Steve Spagnuolo as new defensive coordinator
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Old 01-27-2019, 08:51 PM   #1096
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I don't get it. I just don't understand.

ITS A TALENT PROBLEM, they say, and then they'll pay Dee Ford $15 million to be a situational pass rusher and have NO MONEY to sign proven veterans at other positions of need.

Oh, and you can pick up a nice pick too, probably a #2. so you could draft like, Jaylon Edwards, who's a killer pass rusher that also is a good run defender from Lousiana Tech and a proper RDE in a 4-3.
I think we should move from him.

I just disagree with sdh assessment of his production
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Old 01-27-2019, 08:54 PM   #1097
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I don't get it. I just don't understand.

ITS A TALENT PROBLEM, they say, and then they'll pay Dee Ford $15 million to be a situational pass rusher and have NO MONEY to sign proven veterans at other positions of need.

Oh, and you can pick up a nice pick too, probably a #2. so you could draft like, Jaylon Edwards, who's a killer pass rusher that also is a good run defender from Lousiana Tech and a proper RDE in a 4-3.
Speaking of trucks containing large cargo, another poster linked up the "Alex Smith signs 4 year contract thread" earlier. I decided to take a trip down memory lane for shits and giggles, and let me tell you; there's a WHOLE "Brinks truck" O' Moron in THAT ****ing thing...damn.

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Old 01-27-2019, 08:57 PM   #1098
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Apparently ford made some comments at the pro bowl about being excited to get in and meet the new dc and get back to his auburn playing style days

Sounds like the tag is coming
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Old 01-27-2019, 08:59 PM   #1099
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Apparently ford made some comments at the pro bowl about being excited to get in and meet the new dc and get back to his auburn playing style days

Sounds like the tag is coming
Yep.. saw it live.
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:03 PM   #1100
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Apparently ford made some comments at the pro bowl about being excited to get in and meet the new dc and get back to his auburn playing style days

Sounds like the tag is coming
That may not mean anything. The team may not have sorted out everything they want to do yet.

At the same time, Spags is always a guy who had a lot of success with defenses that were loaded with pass rushers he could rotate through. That's plays in Ford's favor.
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:03 PM   #1101
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Spags is gonna unleash a defense so aggressive and malevolent in nature, that Big Jim Johnson himself is gonna piss himself in the grave

CONVINCE ME I'M WRONG
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:05 PM   #1102
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He also said "I hope I come back". Spags hasn't been here for even a week. I HIGHLY doubt that such a decision has even been brought up for discussion, much less relayed to the player.
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:05 PM   #1103
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Spags is gonna unleash a defense so aggressive and malevolent in nature, that Big Jim Johnson himself is gonna piss himself in the grave

CONVINCE ME I'M WRONG

IF...he's allowed to do it his way, yes.
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:07 PM   #1104
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Apparently ford made some comments at the pro bowl about being excited to get in and meet the new dc and get back to his auburn playing style days

Sounds like the tag is coming
He’s gonna be disappointed when we tag and trade him.

He doesn’t fit well in the Spag defense and he’s a valuable asset in the NFL right now. Chiefs need to swing him for a good pick. The Packers (who have the Saints pick at the end of the first round) actually make a lot of sense now that Mike Smith is there and they are absolutely desperate for a pass rusher . . . .

I don’t hate Dee, but he’s had one good season and has had injury issues during his time here. Not worth a big contract.

Make it happen, Veach!
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Old 01-27-2019, 09:13 PM   #1105
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I think we should move from him.

I just disagree with sdh assessment of his production
He's a productive pass rusher; it's just that it's all he is. He's a liability against the run or if asked to cover.

That would still be fine if he wasn't going to cost $15 million plus. Even that would be tolerable if we weren't in need of NFL starting quality talent at a few other positions.

We really don't want to HAVE to start like 4 rookies.
edit-I guess it'd be like 3 by my count, at SAM, one CB, and a S. Plus whoever's going to play on first down and any down less than 4 yards in Ford's spot. I mean it just doesn't make sense.
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Old 01-27-2019, 10:06 PM   #1106
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I don't get it. I just don't understand.

ITS A TALENT PROBLEM, they say, and then they'll pay Dee Ford $15 million to be a situational pass rusher and have NO MONEY to sign proven veterans at other positions of need.

Oh, and you can pick up a nice pick too, probably a #2. so you could draft like, Jaylon Edwards, who's a killer pass rusher that also is a good run defender from Lousiana Tech and a proper RDE in a 4-3.
Jaylon Ferguson.

Yeah, he’s a stud. I’d trade Ford in a heartbeat to get cheaper on the defense seeing as it is limited what we can do with the albatross Houston and Berry contracts. A low 1 or high 2 could nab a promising DL/Edge player - this draft is deep at D-line.
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Old 01-27-2019, 10:21 PM   #1107
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If Houston and Berry give a single **** about winning anything here in KC, they’ll rework those contracts. I’m cautiously optimistic that something will happen with both.
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Old 01-27-2019, 10:29 PM   #1108
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If Houston and Berry give a single **** about winning anything here in KC, they’ll rework those contracts. I’m cautiously optimistic that something will happen with both.
Don’t kid yourself.

Berry will milk his ailments for every red cent. Why have we not heard of a scheduled surgery for him? His drama will drag into the Summer, then Fall, and we will be back on a day to day status with him as he motivates from the sideline. Houston is his best bud, so however Berry goes, so does Houston.

They are no longer leaders of this team. They will soon become like DJ, Hali - great players, but could not win when it counted. They need to decrease, while Mahomes, Kelce, Hill, Jones increase.
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Old 01-27-2019, 10:35 PM   #1109
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I don't see why Justin Houston is lumped in here. Houston was one of our most impactful players on defense this year.
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Old 01-27-2019, 10:38 PM   #1110
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I don't see why Justin Houston is lumped in here. Houston was one of our most impactful players on defense this year.
His cap hit is $21M for this year. Can save $14M if he’s released.

He was really good down the stretch, but $21M good?
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