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Old 02-05-2019, 03:24 PM  
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We don't really have one of these yet, so figured we could use this as a place to discuss potential free agent acquisitions and what we would like to look for them to bring in.

If any of you guys are interested, heres a good place to do some research.

https://overthecap.com/
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:30 AM   #11431
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And how the **** are you supposed to negotiate more?

The league isn't stupid. You think they could have gotten better picks for those guys? What makes you think that?
I'd give him the benefit of the doubt on those deals if it wasn't for his horrendous contracts in free agency and what appears to be him rushing to meet Seattle's overinflated asking price for Clark.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:30 AM   #11432
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It's not just the draft picks we'd have to give up.....it's the $90 million that we would have to turn around and give to him after we gave up said draft picks. It's the off the field issues that he had in the past. It's the combination of ****ing everything together.
Mahomes contract will be longer than Wilson’s and it will be backloaded. I seriously doubt we’ll be paying a huge cap hit to him until 2022.

You can easily make the cap work dude. You’re just gonna have to let players like Colquitt, LDT, Watkins, etc walk in the next 3 years.

All about the year by year cap hits.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:38 AM   #11433
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The Seahawks have no intention of giving Clark a long term deal and this is a loaded edge class. Veach would be cartoonish'ly stupid to pay what the Seahawks are asking.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:41 AM   #11434
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We could only get a 2nd for Dee Ford bc he is a walking injury waiting to happen. Marcus Peters is a goddamn lunatic who got his asshole roasted in coverage and less than a handful of teams even wanted to trade for him in the first place.

Frank Clark has no durability issues and has done the following as a starter/significant role player for Seattle the last 3 seasons:

32 sacks
66 QB hits
7 forced fumbles
4 passes defended
31 tackles for loss
1 INT

Go ahead and tell the class what draft pick is going to give us that production bc that is elite. In fact, go ahead and tell me how many pass rushers have been better than him the last 3 years.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:43 AM   #11435
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I'd happily give up a 1st for Clark, getting a premier pass rusher at #29 is pretty much a dream outcome. I just wouldn't sell the whole farm for him. I bet Seahawks will get desperate the closer the draft gets.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:45 AM   #11437
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What about Jones and Hill??
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:46 AM   #11438
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Trading for Clark requires us to give up cap space, draft capital in a DL-loaded draft, and invalidates our 2017 and 2018 2nds.

Hard pass.
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Old 04-22-2019, 11:47 AM   #11439
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Raise the draft picks on the Jets and get out of that deal unless you can attain him for Ford's draft pick, I still don't see how the Chiefs can afford Clark long term without losing other valuable players along the way. Just use the first round pick on someone like Sweat etc., and grab a cornerback in the second, a stopgap in Boston, and pay your monster contracts that are proven on your team, grab another secondary piece, and move on to the offense side of the ball in the later rounds (TE, WR, and C).
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Trading for Clark requires us to give up cap space, draft capital in a DL-loaded draft, and invalidates our 2017 and 2018 2nds.

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Ummm....what? It doesn't invalidate Speaks. Speaks is your starter at SDE right now. Clark would be your LEO.

And Kpass is a ****ing wildcard at this point.
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Ummm....what? It doesn't invalidate Speaks. Speaks is your starter at SDE right now. Clark would be your LEO.

And Kpass is a ****ing wildcard at this point.
I’ll guve you KPass.

But we didn’t pay Okafor decent change and trade for Ogbah for no reason. Otherwise, it’s an indictment of Veach.

I’d only give up SF’s 2020 2nd for Clark.
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I’ll guve you KPass.

But we didn’t pay Okafor decent change and trade for Ogbah for no reason.
The defensive line is going to be all about depth and moving people around to create mismatches. Before Okafor and Ogbah.....our depth was shit.
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Speaks might be best to rotate with Jones inside and Tanoh is just depth. They could use an add to go with Ogbah and Okafor.

I don't think Frank Clark is the best way to add one more body, but they need to not overpay at the least.
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Hopefully we can't work out a long term extension and this whole deal just blows over.
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