****OFFICIAL Royals at Blue Jays GDT 08/02****

[RealSNR]

Time to take a catheter and shove it up their Dickey!

Game start: 12:07 central

KC: Volquez (10-5, 3.21)
TOR: Dickey (5-10, 4.27)

Go Royals!


Royals
Escobar
Zobrist
Cain
Hosmer
Morales
Perez
Rios
Cuthbert
Infante

Blue Jays
Tulowitzki
Donaldson
Bautista
Encarnacion
Colabello
Martin
Pillar
Goins
Revere

[RollChiefsRoll]

Are you ****ing mongoloids really going to keep rehashing the same goddamn points over and over again in this 76-page thread?

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

So the Royals are allowed to hit Donaldson after Moose gets hit on accident.

The Jays are NOT allowed to hit Escobar after Tulo gets hit on accident.

Got it.

Of COURSE it was blatant - that's not the point. Neither side is even arguing that the pitches weren't clear purpose pitches. My question is why you believe the Royals purpose pitch was acceptable and the Jays pitch wasn't?

The warning didn't settle things nor should it have by the Royals very own calculus. Once their SS got hit on accident after the warning, the Royals SS became fair game, just as their 3b was fair game when Moose got hit.

Because when Tulo was hit it was on a 0-2 count. No major league player will tell you that you hit someone on purpose on 0-2 because you don't. That was a accident. But when Sanchez comes out the very next inning and hits the first batter in Escobar you can't tell me that's accidental

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll

Are you ****ing mongoloids really going to keep rehashing the same goddamn points over and over again in this 76-page thread?

77 pages actually

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by kysirsoze

Unless there's a better view, it looks like a few Jays came out to protest and the Royals responded, albeit more dramatically.

Kind of like a lot of the Royals problems. They don't start it but overreact and look like the assholes.

This is the best shot from the video HE posted as proof:



And he's welcome to find any screen capture on the video he'd like as a 'better' one. He's correct that the angles aren't perfect but trust me, the MLB network ones showed it pretty clearly and the fact that the camera was panning THAT direction rather than towards the Jays side or even out further cements the point.

Yes, there are Blue Jays on the field. Those guys with the gloves? Those are fielders - they're supposed to be there. The guys with the jackets? Those are coaches - they're allowed to be there to protest their guy getting tossed to the umpire.

The 15 guys hanging out on the 1b line with no gloves or jackets while wearing grey jerseys? Those are red-asses who emptied the benches for no good reason at all. I'm sure they just got to the baselines really really fast after the Blue Jays started it.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by penbrook

Because when Tulo was hit it was on a 0-2 count. No major league player will tell you that you hit someone on purpose on 0-2 because you don't. That was a accident. But when Sanchez comes out the very next inning and hits the first batter in Escobar you can't tell me that's accidental

**** me, how many times do I have to concede this point - IT WASN'T ON PURPOSE.

It was never on purpose. But the pitch that hit Moose wasn't on purpose either.

If Donaldson was fair game for Moose, then Escobar was fair game for Tulo. If you're going to defend drilling Donaldson you have no choice but to take your medicine when Escobar gets drilled. Again - this is the ROYALS calculus I'm using here. It's the ground rules THEY set when they hit Donaldson with clear intent early in the game.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by penbrook

77 pages actually

Y'all need to change your page view counts; that's too much clicking.

15 pages FTW.

[GloryDayz]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

**** me, how many times do I have to concede this point - IT WASN'T ON PURPOSE.

It was never on purpose. But the pitch that hit Moose wasn't on purpose either.

If Donaldson was fair game for Moose, then Escobar was fair game for Tulo. If you're going to defend drilling Donaldson you have no choice but to take your medicine when Escobar gets drilled. Again - this is the ROYALS calculus I'm using here. It's the ground rules THEY set when they hit Donaldson with clear intent early in the game.

Why do you think it's calculus?

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by GloryDayz

Why do you think it's calculus?

Is it not? Aren't we playing eye for an eye here?

Would you prefer the term 'ground rules'?

'they hit our 3b' + 'we don't give a shit if it was on purpose' = we hit their 3b.

::

'they hit our SS' + 'we don't give a shit if it was on purpose' = we hit their SS.

The Royals got bit by their own game and they got pissy about it. Royals fans see them like mothers who sons got shot robbing a gas station. "Donaldson should've just dealt with it" is the new "that attendant should've just called the police"....

[penbrook]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Is it not? Aren't we playing eye for an eye here?

Would you prefer the term 'ground rules'?

'they hit our 3b' + 'we don't give a shit if it was on purpose' = we hit their 3b.

::

'they hit our SS' + 'we don't give a shit if it was on purpose' = we hit their SS.

The Royals got bit by their own game and they got pissy about it. Royals fans see them like mothers who sons got shot robbing a gas station. "Donaldson should've just dealt with it" is the new "that attendant should've just called the police"....

This isn't about ****ing what position they play. Jays thought that hitting Tulo was on purpose on a 0-2 count so they hit Esky the very next inning. Jays are the ones who can't let things go

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by penbrook

This isn't about ****ing what position they play. Jays thought that hitting Tulo was on purpose on a 0-2 count so they hit Esky the very next inning. Jays are the ones who can't let things go

I don't think the Jays thought hitting Tulo was on purpose.

Like the Royals, I don't think they gave a damn if it was or if it wasn't.

[bricks]

Originally Posted by penbrook

Ventura got 7 games for arguing with a batter earlier on in the season. He didn't even hit him.

It's stuff like this that doesn't make me wanna call MLB Major League Baseball but rather major league bullsh*t.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

This is the best shot from the video HE posted as proof:



And he's welcome to find any screen capture on the video he'd like as a 'better' one. He's correct that the angles aren't perfect but trust me, the MLB network ones showed it pretty clearly and the fact that the camera was panning THAT direction rather than towards the Jays side or even out further cements the point.

Yes, there are Blue Jays on the field. Those guys with the gloves? Those are fielders - they're supposed to be there. The guys with the jackets? Those are coaches - they're allowed to be there to protest their guy getting tossed to the umpire.

The 15 guys hanging out on the 1b line with no gloves or jackets while wearing grey jerseys? Those are red-asses who emptied the benches for no good reason at all. I'm sure they just got to the baselines really really fast after the Blue Jays started it.

I never said the Royals weren't the first ones on the field, you twat. I was using that clip as evidence that the Royals dugout didn't "empty immediately".

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Dartgod

I never said the Royals weren't the first ones on the field, you twat. I was using that clip as evidence that the Royals dugout didn't "empty immediately".

Ah, I guess I missed your point on account of it being incredibly inane.

"Sure the Royals barreled onto the field en masse for no good reason...but they waited a beat beforehand so it's all good..."

So I guess when you said "it looks like there were a few Jays leaving the dugout before or at the same time as the Royals" it was just more BS from you, right? Or was I not supposed to speak to that particular point but rather glean from its obvious absurdity that you didn't really mean it? Oh wait, you absolutely suggested the Royals weren't the first ones on the field, but keep getting indignant.

Your squad started that shit. But hey, it's okay, mom - I'm sure he was a nice boy that just fell in with the wrong crowd.

[srvy]

Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll

Are you ****ing mongoloids really going to keep rehashing the same goddamn points over and over again in this 76-page thread?

Aparently so DJ's numb nuts keeps posting the same thing post after post. I keep thinking its the server when I refresh backing up to old posts . Maybe he will run out of breath and passout but fear he is on oxygen or in an iron lung.

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Ah, I guess I missed your point on account of it being incredibly inane.

"Sure the Royals barreled onto the field en masse for no good reason...but they waited a beat beforehand so it's all good..."

So I guess when you said "it looks like there were a few Jays leaving the dugout before or at the same time as the Royals" it was just more BS from you, right? Or was I not supposed to speak to that particular point but rather glean from its obvious absurdity that you didn't really mean it? Oh wait, you absolutely suggested the Royals weren't the first ones on the field, but keep getting indignant.

Your squad started that shit. But hey, it's okay, mom - I'm sure he was a nice boy that just fell in with the wrong crowd.

There's another angle that shows some Jays heading out to the field at the same time as the Royals. It's the one where the Royals player jumps the railing. Again, I said it's not clear. My point was and still is that the dugout didn't empty as you alluded.