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*** Official 2016 Royals Offseason Repository ***



Well, folks, it has happened. The Royals stand triumphant, atop the heap of MLB.

In this thread, we'll track the action as Dayton Moore continues The Process and attempts to defend the long-awaited title.

Before we get to the meet of it, let's take a minute to reflect ... and say "I'm Sorry" to Dayton Moore.

We gave you hell. Many of us called for your head. But you were right. You got it done. Congratulations. Mea culpa.

Now, let's talk about the offseason:

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The Royals will have a few priorities: Corner OF (x2) and 1 SP, IMO. The rest of the core is solid and will need little tweaking. Looking at the increase in ticket sales, merchandising, concessions, parking, etc., I think it's fair to assume the Royals GROSSED $100 million more this season, or close to it. That gives Glass and Dayton Moore much more flexibility on payroll for 2016 (hopefully).

First order of business will be gauging the Alex Gordon market. If he can be resigned for 4-5 years at around $75-80 million total, it would be hard for KC to pass on that. He's still an above-average corner OF bat, and the Royals will need to bring in at least one proven guy to play in a corner if Gordon walks... and the whole market looks a lot like Alex - guys in their early 30s looking for huge, final contracts.

Second order of business: Make a decision on Zobrist. It sounds like KC will pursue him aggressively. At 34, he's at risk of declining in a big way after a few years. If they could find someone to take on Omar Infante for eating 1/2 of his deal, that would be a great start to things.

If they decide not to spend on Zobrist, KC will need to cobble together some sort of plan for 2B/RF that involves some cheaper options like Orlando, Colon, Dyson, etc.

I could see them deciding his ability to provide great insurance at either 2B or in RF is worth the risk.

Third order of business: Add depth to the rotation with a FA SP. Duffy, Ventura, Volquez and Medlen are locks for 4 spots, it seems. Kyle Zimmer may finally be ready to make a MLB impact, but his innings will be limited. That means KC needs insurance. Will it kill two birds with one stone (and insure against Duffy/Ventura regression) by signing a more top-tier guy? Or does Moore look to Chris Young/someone like him for this depth?

Personally, I think Mike Leake would be a great fit with KC's defense and park, and I know Moore has long coveted him. He's still young - just 28 - and has succeeded in bandbox Cincinnati for years.

Ian Kennedy, Mat Latos, Marco Estrada, and Justin Masterson are some other names that may pique interest (a little further down the list).

Other than that, I don't think KC makes any major moves. Greg Holland will be interesting to observe, as they have one more year of control of him, and he will obviously miss all of that season. I wouldn't be surprised to see a pre-arbitration deal that pays him something like $15 million over the next two seasons, and I wouldn't be surprised to see him turned loose, period.

The bullpen will rest upon Wade Davis/Herrera/Hochevar, filling in pieces around them. Bringing Madson back wouldn't be a surprise, but he could get a big deal from another team that is willing to pay him as their top setup guy or even their closer.

I think the biggest prospects to watch in Spring Training will be:

1) Kyle Zimmer. The hype has built, died down, built again, etc. If he's healthy, he's filthy and a potential ToR arm. But what does he look like in ST, and how many innings can you reasonably expect from him if he does earn a rotation spot? It seems like 120-130 innings would be his limit unless they really stretch (or unless he has a lot of hidden innings from simulated games/extended spring training, which might push him to 150-160).

Having another cheap, home-grown pitcher would be a significant boon for this team as it tries to extend the competitive window (and potentially give KC a strong 1-2 to build its rotation around in Zimmer and Ventura)

2) Bubba Starling. I'm trying to remain skeptical, but I like what I hear about Bubba from this season, and the performance has picked up. If KC does not sign someone to fill the RF slot, I think that's a strong indication KC's front office believes Starling will be ready to contribute in 2016.

Dayton Moore has long said that when Starling's light flips on, it will happen quickly and burn brightly. Time will tell.

After his STRONG Arizona Fall League Performance, he shot up my prospect chart.

3) Miguel Almonte. His late-season stint out of the KC bullpen went poorly, but Almonte has a plus-plus changeup, a good fastball, and a decent curve ball. He may be the dark horse in the rotation competition, and unlike Zimmer, he's set up to pitch a full 180 inning season.

4) RA Mondesi. The only player to debut in the MLB World Series has incredible tools. He still needs to refine his game, but again... he may be KC's best cheap, plus alternative at a key position (2B). His defense would be a boon from Day 1, but he needs seasoning with the bat before he's asked to hold down 2B full time.

And, as always, here are the Prospects:

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Old 12-08-2015, 07:23 AM   #1141
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:23 AM   #1142
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Old 12-08-2015, 07:49 AM   #1143
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Old 12-08-2015, 10:01 AM   #1144
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Did the Reds seriously not disclose this information? If not, why would any GM in the league even consider dealing with them? I'd blackball anyone who operated that way.
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Old 12-08-2015, 10:56 AM   #1145
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Old 12-08-2015, 10:57 AM   #1146
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Old 12-08-2015, 11:08 AM   #1148
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We were never going to pay for 2 corner OF anyway so this isn't really news. What is: that Dyson is the guy and not Orlando or Eibner/et al. Cain to RF now.
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Old 12-08-2015, 11:24 AM   #1149
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Im sure Orlando will see plenty of time. Even with this news I doubt Dyson start more than a 100 games
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Sad to say it, but after reading a baseball insider's article (I'll have to find it again and then I can link it), but I am now leaning toward the reality that Gordo and Zobrist are not going to be back.

Yeah, I'm sure plenty of people already figured as much, but the article mentions a rather different viewpoint for the team's plans in the near future.

Essentially, it's not that they can't pony up for both guys, it's deciding that they are banking those dollars to have for the young guys hitting FA in a couple years.

I was surprised to hear that the information he got from his sources with the Royals organization is that the front office fully intends on keeping Hosmer, Moose, Cain, and Escobar.

Basically, the Royals have a very good relationship with Boras, and anticipated this even before drafting these guys. Other teams had already determined they would pass on Hos and Moose no matter if they were available because they knew the implications of Boras' clients. The Royals were well aware of this, and have been planning accordingly to be able to keep the guys they drafted with high picks should they end up reaching their potential.

Who knows, but I do find it interesting that they might have a very different idea of how things work out when a good amount of the younger talent is about to hit Free Agency. . .
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Old 12-08-2015, 11:47 AM   #1152
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That's right in general, but given the way KC is crazy about the Royals and Chiefs... I imagine the local ratings won't take too much of a hit. As long as both teams stay competitive.
You're right, KC's market share is an aberration because it literally draws in ungodly numbers. If the LA market had the viewership numbers that KC does, their TV contract would be worth 3 times it's already gigantic amount.

The Royals organization needs to keep the numbers strong until the new contract is in place if they want to get money to keep their payroll in at least the middle 3rd on a yearly basis.
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Old 12-08-2015, 11:48 AM   #1153
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I think Gordon is coming back. Only two other landing spots for him in Anaheim and maybe St. Louis.

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Sad to say it, but after reading a baseball insider's article (I'll have to find it again and then I can link it), but I am now leaning toward the reality that Gordo and Zobrist are not going to be back.

Yeah, I'm sure plenty of people already figured as much, but the article mentions a rather different viewpoint for the team's plans in the near future.

Essentially, it's not that they can't pony up for both guys, it's deciding that they are banking those dollars to have for the young guys hitting FA in a couple years.

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Basically, the Royals have a very good relationship with Boras, and anticipated this even before drafting these guys. Other teams had already determined they would pass on Hos and Moose no matter if they were available because they knew the implications of Boras' clients. The Royals were well aware of this, and have been planning accordingly to be able to keep the guys they drafted with high picks should they end up reaching their potential.

Who knows, but I do find it interesting that they might have a very different idea of how things work out when a good amount of the younger talent is about to hit Free Agency. . .
I'd rather have $35,000,000 to pay our young guys after 2017 than have it tied up in a couple of players in their mid to late thirties, so I'm fine with this plan. We still need to beef our farm system back up the the point where old players are being pushed out by up and comers.
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