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JakeF · 01-08-2018, 04:53 PM

Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says
Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network thinks the Chiefs could get a solid trade haul in return for Alex Smith.
Kirk Larrabee - 3 hours ago 0

The Kansas City Chiefs should have no problem finding a trade partner for Alex Smith this offseason and could come away with a strong haul in return, according to insider Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network.

Rapoport, who reported over the weekend the Chiefs would be listening to offers for Smith this offseason, was a guest on The Day Shift on 610 Sports Radio Kansas City Monday, where he was asked about the level of interest in Alex Smith and whether or not the Chiefs will be able to trade him.

"A lot," Rapoport said. "A lot, and yes."

Smith is coming off his best statistical season of his career as he threw for 4,042 yards in 2017 with 26 touchdowns, five interceptions, and a 104.7 passer rating. Rapoport says it's that performance along with what Smith can bring to a team's quarterback room that makes him such a hot commodity.

"He was number one in the NFL in passer rating," Rapoport said. "He is a great person, so if you trade for him and then draft a quarterback high, you will get someone who's going to help him. All you need to do is ask Patrick Mahomes. It's actually an amazing thing what a great person Alex Smith is because he's dealt with a lot of crap in his career despite mostly awesome and has come out the other side of it."

There have been several teams speculated to be good fits for Smith, with different situations among each of them. There's the Jacksonville Jaguars and Buffalo Bills, playoff teams that are still fighting quarterback woes; there's the Arizona Cardinals, a team whose starting quarterback, Carson Palmer, just retired, but still has enough talent to be competitive next season; and there's a team like the Cleveland Browns, who might be interested in acquiring Smith to not just help the team start winning again but to be a mentor to a quarterback they might select in the draft.

The latter situation might not seem like an ideal one to many quarterbacks, but Smith has done it before, and Rapoport thinks he might not have a problem doing it again.

"If I was a franchise quarterback, would I really want to help the guy who is brought in to replace me? I don't know," Rapoport said. "For some ridiculous reason, Alex Smith has done it several times, and he's continued to be a great guy. He's going to end up benefiting from all this because first of all, he's probably going to wind up being traded somewhere great. Second of all, I think his legacy will sort of live on and people will know what a good person he is."

Trading Smith would free up $17 million in cap space for the Chiefs, a much-needed amount for a team currently projected to be over the cap next year, and would also allow them to replenish some of the draft picks they traded away in multiple trades in recent months. It cost a 2013 second round pick and a 2014 conditional pick (which turned out to be another second round pick) for the Chiefs to acquire Smith from the San Francisco 49ers in 2013, and Rapoport thinks the Chiefs could get even more in return for Smith than that.

"I think they might do better this time," Rapoport said. "He is a hot commodity, and they are in unbelievable position."

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**The Franchise** · 01-22-2018, 02:06 PM

Yeah....that's one gif of Smith. There aren't hundreds of those things out there from his entire career.

Sandy Vagina · 01-22-2018, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

Yeah....that's one gif of Smith. There aren't hundreds of those things out there from his entire career.

I would expect so. Even to ask me, the weakest part of Alex's game is???

His pocket composure.

.. Yes, said it, and I have said it before as well.

He has had some truly awful OL stand in front of him over many years. The dude just won't get any more composed than what he is... and it will always hold him back.

How much it will hold him back is where the true debate would be.

Sassy Squatch · 01-22-2018, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina

did you really just say "run down field and get a penalty?" LOL

You're right. The two OL were much more useful doing not a ****ing thing.

I do agree that Smith screws up by giving up on pass options. Not sure from that gif if any were available. Convenient to not show that. I also understand that OL don't have eyes in the back of their heads.

It was just shit play there. ONE play.

Hey, remember when Brady shat out a couple plays of fetal yesterday?

Hey, Let's check in on Big Ben for a moment....

How's Matt doin today?

Ma man, Aaron... what's happenin?

QBs have plenty of these goof/wtf plays.

Do you not understand how "ineligible receiver downfield" works? If the OL runs past the line of scrimmage to block and Smith passes its a penalty.

Sandy Vagina · 01-22-2018, 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Do you not understand how "ineligible receiver downfield" works? If the OL runs pass the line of scrimmage to block and Smith passes its a penalty.

Understood. I don't believe they would have had to go downfield enough to engage the defenders... who were essentially at the LOS. Look again. One rusher was in the backfield.. and the other would have been right at the LOS when engaged.

This isn't really the point though.

Sassy Squatch · 01-22-2018, 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina

Understood. I don't believe they would have had to go downfield enough to engage the defenders... who were essentially at the LOS. Look again. One rusher was in the backfield.. and the other would have been right at the LOS when engaged.

This isn't really the point though.

Yeah, it kind of is. You're trying to put the blame on the OL when in actuality they did a damn near perfect job of keeping a clean pocket for Smith.

Sandy Vagina · 01-22-2018, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Superturtle

Yeah, it kind of is. You're trying to put the blame on the OL when in actuality they did a damn near perfect job of keeping a clean pocket for Smith.

OKay you win. I'm tired. Alex sucks. Good day.

Sassy Squatch · 01-22-2018, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina

OKay you win. I'm tired. Alex sucks. Good day.

No, I don't think Alex Smith sucks. You don't have the #1 passer rating in the league by sucking. I DO think he's about as anti clutch as it gets, considering the amount of talent he has.

kcbubb · 01-22-2018, 02:43 PM

The browns can offer a lot for Smith because they have 12 picks and they also have high picks (1, 4, 33, 35 and the eagles 2nd also). I would expect that they'd offer more for Smith than AJ McCarron. The Browns supposedly had a deal for McCarron for a 2nd and a 3rd. This also frees the browns up to trade down with there #1 overall pick and maybe take their qbotf next year, and they'd have 2 #1's this year and 2 #1's next year if they traded down. I could easily see the jets and broncos getting in a bidding war for the #1 overall pick to move ahead of the giants. Hopefully the chiefs can get 2 2nd rounders from the browns. I doubt the cards or the bills pull the trigger on their 1st round pick.

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...mccarron-trade

2018 NFL DRAFT

First round: (2) Own pick, Texans' pick via 2017 draft-day trade.

Second round: (3) Own pick, Eagles' pick via 2016 draft-day trade, Texans' pick via Brock Osweiler trade.

Third round: (1) Own pick.

Fourth round: (2) Own pick, Panthers' pick via Andy Lee trade.

Fifth round: (2) Own pick, Chiefs' pick (conditional) via Cam Erving trade.

Sixth round: (1) Own pick.

Seventh round: (1) Own pick.

O.city · 01-22-2018, 03:05 PM

I’d ask for 2 of their 2nd rounders or start with the Texans first rounder

Lol

Coogs · 01-22-2018, 03:47 PM

Pick 33 Browns is worth 580

Pick 35 thru Texans is worth 560

Pick 63/64 thru Eagles is worth 276/270

Two of those involving the Eagles pick would be worth somewhere between 830 to 856 which is either side of the #20 pick in the 1st round. That wouldn't be bad.

33 and 35 would be equivalent to the 15th pick in the draft. Could happen I suppose.

As my David Putney move, I would ask for our 5th rounder for Cam Erving back too. Worth 31 points.

bigjosh · 01-22-2018, 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sandy Vagina

Look at that play again while focusing on Witzman. Take a peak at Fulton as well, but to a lesser extent.

Can you imagine what yardage Alex gets, if Witz just sees that Fisher has his guy, and Witz actually blocks the defender he could have?

You can't block a spying linebacker 2 yards past the los. That is illegal down field.

**RealSNR** · 01-22-2018, 03:54 PM

I'd almost rather have the 2 2nd rounders.

That would give us plenty of options and give us a chance to better play the board. We could easily trade up into the 1st any time around pick #20 to go after a stud player we like, or we could just keep all three 2nds and knock out a ton of draft needs/depth issues.

Mother****erJones · 01-22-2018, 03:55 PM

My dream is for Arizona to be desperate and trade pick 15 but that’s not happening. Realistically I’m hoping for Cleveland’s 2 2s

Garcia Bronco · 01-22-2018, 04:00 PM

No one is going to trade for Smith on a 1 year deal. If they did...I would expect at most a 4th round pick. If I wanted Smith bad enough, I'll just wait for the Chiefs to cut him.

Coogs · 01-22-2018, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by RealSNR

I'd almost rather have the 2 2nd rounders.

That would give us plenty of options and give us a chance to better play the board. We could easily trade up into the 1st any time around pick #20 to go after a stud player we like, or we could just keep all three 2nds and knock out a ton of draft needs/depth issues.

I might be nice to even have the #33 pick. First pick in the 2nd round could be a valuable trade down piece to pick up even more day 2 draft picks.

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JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network thinks the Chiefs could get a solid trade haul in return for Alex Smith. Kirk Larrabee - 3 hours ago 0 The Kansas City Chiefs should have no problem finding a trade partner for Alex Smith this offseason and could come away with a strong haul in return, according to insider Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network. Rapoport, who reported over the weekend the Chiefs would be listening to offers for Smith this offseason, was a guest on The Day Shift on 610 Sports Radio Kansas City Monday, where he was asked about the level of interest in Alex Smith and whether or not the Chiefs will be able to trade him. "A lot," Rapoport said. "A lot, and yes." Smith is coming off his best statistical season of his career as he threw for 4,042 yards in 2017 with 26 touchdowns, five interceptions, and a 104.7 passer rating. Rapoport says it's that performance along with what Smith can bring to a team's quarterback room that makes him such a hot commodity. "He was number one in the NFL in passer rating," Rapoport said. "He is a great person, so if you trade for him and then draft a quarterback high, you will get someone who's going to help him. All you need to do is ask Patrick Mahomes. It's actually an amazing thing what a great person Alex Smith is because he's dealt with a lot of crap in his career despite mostly awesome and has come out the other side of it." There have been several teams speculated to be good fits for Smith, with different situations among each of them. There's the Jacksonville Jaguars and Buffalo Bills, playoff teams that are still fighting quarterback woes; there's the Arizona Cardinals, a team whose starting quarterback, Carson Palmer, just retired, but still has enough talent to be competitive next season; and there's a team like the Cleveland Browns, who might be interested in acquiring Smith to not just help the team start winning again but to be a mentor to a quarterback they might select in the draft. The latter situation might not seem like an ideal one to many quarterbacks, but Smith has done it before, and Rapoport thinks he might not have a problem doing it again. "If I was a franchise quarterback, would I really want to help the guy who is brought in to replace me? I don't know," Rapoport said. "For some ridiculous reason, Alex Smith has done it several times, and he's continued to be a great guy. He's going to end up benefiting from all this because first of all, he's probably going to wind up being traded somewhere great. Second of all, I think his legacy will sort of live on and people will know what a good person he is." Trading Smith would free up $17 million in cap space for the Chiefs, a much-needed amount for a team currently projected to be over the cap next year, and would also allow them to replenish some of the draft picks they traded away in multiple trades in recent months. It cost a 2013 second round pick and a 2014 conditional pick (which turned out to be another second round pick) for the Chiefs to acquire Smith from the San Francisco 49ers in 2013, and Rapoport thinks the Chiefs could get even more in return for Smith than that. "I think they might do better this time," Rapoport said. "He is a hot commodity, and they are in unbelievable position." Author Kirk Larrabee @nfl_chiefs247
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kcbubb Veteran Join Date: Nov 2008 Casino cash: $6056719	The browns can offer a lot for Smith because they have 12 picks and they also have high picks (1, 4, 33, 35 and the eagles 2nd also). I would expect that they'd offer more for Smith than AJ McCarron. The Browns supposedly had a deal for McCarron for a 2nd and a 3rd. This also frees the browns up to trade down with there #1 overall pick and maybe take their qbotf next year, and they'd have 2 #1's this year and 2 #1's next year if they traded down. I could easily see the jets and broncos getting in a bidding war for the #1 overall pick to move ahead of the giants. Hopefully the chiefs can get 2 2nd rounders from the browns. I doubt the cards or the bills pull the trigger on their 1st round pick. http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2...mccarron-trade 2018 NFL DRAFT First round: (2) Own pick, Texans' pick via 2017 draft-day trade. Second round: (3) Own pick, Eagles' pick via 2016 draft-day trade, Texans' pick via Brock Osweiler trade. Third round: (1) Own pick. Fourth round: (2) Own pick, Panthers' pick via Andy Lee trade. Fifth round: (2) Own pick, Chiefs' pick (conditional) via Cam Erving trade. Sixth round: (1) Own pick. Seventh round: (1) Own pick.
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