***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[stumppy]

Originally Posted by Bearcat

We've already been asked a few times to boot you from the thread, as I'm sure a lot of people go by the mantra of once a troll, always a troll with little room for benefit of the doubt that you're just trying to be funny or whatever.... yet, I'm not sure what else I'd call your past few posts, where it's nothing more than baiting people into responding and hijacking the thread. Then you'll play dumb, then will be back with the same bit tomorrow.

Stop the bullshit or GTFO.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by TLO

Gonna go ahead and disagree with you on this one.

Sign me up for the placebo group.

[SuperBowl4]

THE INDIANAPOLIS 500 just got a rescheduled date from Memorial day weekend to August 23rd.

[SuperBowl4]

Originally Posted by Donger

That was civil compared to what I really think.

What do you really think?

[Easy 6]

I’m legitimately perplexed how a thread on something like this became so antagonistic

Yeah it’s CP, but still man... everyone needs to calm the **** down and stop acting like some expert

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I’m legitimately perplexed how a thread on something like this became so antagonistic

Yeah it’s CP, but still man... everyone needs to calm the **** down and stop acting like some expert

Claiming things that aren't proven as fact is irresponsible, and potentially dangerous. We have people here who are seriously scared and might act upon that unproven claim.

[ptlyon]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I am sorry, but I do not understand.

I post info, perhaps positive, but that is my prerogative and perfectly acceptable. People respond and play nice for the most part, then Donger called me a dick out of nowhere.

Donger's response was the issue here. Has something changed? Is positive news no longer welcome here? And Donger calling me a dick is?

I feel like I am treading eggshells in this thread every time I post positive news. It is hard to know what is and what is not acceptable.

Can you quote a post that I may have made that is not acceptable today?

[carlos3652]

I havent seen Ringleader reply, but he was just doing math at the trend of numbers at that moment.

The trend of deaths per day was lower than expected for yesterday. Based on the numbers, it should have been 341. it was 247. Im sure if he adjusts the trend on his math, this would lower the number...

It was 50 per day between March 18-21, then the last 4 days jumped to 113 / 141 / 225 / 247... do you not think its trending upward?

He did mention in the post that it was probably not going to happen, but the 20k deaths in the US based on the numbers a couple days ago.

He also is happy that the metric was lower. So dont put him in a bad light, he was was just going off the data that he had (not that he needs me to defend him)

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by Donger

Claiming things that aren't proven as fact is irresponsible, and potentially dangerous. We have people here who are seriously scared and might act upon that unproven claim.

If you're a member here and take something Clay or Pete or Dane or Me or anyone else says as justification for drinking fish tank cleaner....FFS.

People have gone so far in convincing themselves that Twitter is real life that they are actually serious when they say weird shit like "Clay is dangerous..."

Christ.

[Monticore]

Can't even take advantage of the cheap gas, and living up north it seems like we have been self isolating for 6 months already, when snow melts and lakes open it will be hard to keep people in there house.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

If you're a member here and take something Clay or Pete or Dane or Me or anyone else says as justification for drinking fish tank cleaner....FFS.

People have gone so far in convincing themselves that Twitter is real life that they are actually serious when they say weird shit like "Clay is dangerous..."

Christ.

Under normal circumstances, no, I agree. The fact remains that there have been people who have heard about the magic cure during this pandemic and have died trying it.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

Under normal circumstances, no, I agree. The fact remains that there have been people who have heard about the magic cure during this pandemic and have died trying it.

Unfortunately this was not the cure as prescribed by Dr. Zelenko, which is highly effective and has resulted in zero deaths. Important distinction.

I think continued info about this cure is certainly worth monitoring in this thread.

[carlos3652]

Originally Posted by dlphg9

This is how I thought it would work. Im not sure where people were getting the idea that this money is going to be taxed.

So I know that they are going by either the 2018 tax return, 2019 tax return, or your Social Security statement. Does this mean people that have been unemployed or people collecting social security get stimulus money?

Yes. Everyone with a social security number and American (resident / citizen) will get money. 90%

[Dartgod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

For instance, I know the best way to get human brains out of a lab coat.

What the **** does that have to do with anything being discussed here?

[burt]

Originally Posted by Easy 6

I’m legitimately perplexed how a thread on something like this became so antagonistic

Yeah it’s CP, but still man... everyone needs to calm the **** down and stop acting like some expert

Ergo...I lurk mostly. Occasional snide comments to depressurize. I AM not even close to an expert on ANY of this. 1 month ago, no one here was.