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Old 02-26-2020, 10:28 PM  
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:19 PM   #11926
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I really wish the world would figure out the difference between a mortality rate and CFR. But I'm kind of giving up on that battle.
The CFR of this is definitely less than the current mortality rate, that's a given. But we'll never know what that actually is unless we want to test a subset of the population or do a serum test for antibodies to see if people had it and beat it.
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:20 PM   #11927
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What a ride upsetting the overall #1 seed in China. Nobody saw this coming. Trumps bracket is shot.
I want a slow-motion montage of people coughing and hacking up phlegm set to "one shining moment."
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:21 PM   #11928
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I think everyone gets that the number is fluid, but it's what we have as I said earlier. You didn't run the numbers based on what you say we should be using. Why not?
Because the CFR and mortality rates both have nothing to do with active cases that have not yielded a recovery or a death. That's why.
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:21 PM   #11929
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The CFR of this is definitely less than the current mortality rate, that's a given. But we'll never know what that actually is unless we want to test a subset of the population or do a serum test for antibodies to see if people had it and beat it.
Right. My point is that everyone talks about the "mortality rate" - even reputable media. They're almost all actually referring to CFRs.
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:21 PM   #11930
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I get what you're saying, but I think it's silly to say 35% of the people who get this are going to die.
That's not what I'm saying at all. But when people just divide by deaths by total cases - that tells you nothing and they are doing it wrong. They aren't achieving what their goal is to do, but they think they are.
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:22 PM   #11931
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Because the CFR and mortality rates both have nothing to do with active cases that have not yielded a recovery or a death. That's why.
Right. So you can't run those numbers. But we do have total number of cases and deaths.
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:23 PM   #11932
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They look terrible in the vacuum bag they are in. We'll see tonight.
You haven't eaten them yet? You can't be human.
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:23 PM   #11933
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Right. My point is that everyone talks about the "mortality rate" - even reputable media. They're almost all actually referring to CFRs.
Agreed. But mostly they are just guessing. And most people think the CFR is just divide deaths by total cases right now - and it's not.
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:24 PM   #11934
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They arrived Tuesday late and were frozen solid (thankfully).
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:26 PM   #11935
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Right. So you can't run those numbers. But we do have total number of cases and deaths.
But people are incorrectly interpreting the data. They conclude that Country X has the same amount of cases as US, and we have less deaths, it must be because we have better health care or we are treating them better.

That might be the case. It might not. You have to look further than that. You need to also look at the percentage of total cases that are still active. Those in intensive care. Those recovered AND deaths. The charts of when the new cases were found.

If two countries have the same amount of cases, but yet one has ten times as many recovered cases. Your conclusion will be incorrect if you are just looking at cases and deaths.

The struggle with interpreting data is real and I've seen almost nobody that is doing it right.
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:27 PM   #11936
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What a ride upsetting the overall #1 seed in China. Nobody saw this coming. Trumps bracket is shot.
Bigger question is how far understated are China's numbers? I would imagine, at least, they had 500,000 to 600,000 cases. Take 3% of that to get a more likely death total as well.
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:28 PM   #11937
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They arrived Tuesday late and were frozen solid (thankfully).
I have actually never had brisket let alone burnt ends, I have also never had a poutine before anyone calls me a racist.
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:30 PM   #11938
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Sorry, but if you think that deaths per million is the really important number compared to the others....
No I don't.
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Old 03-26-2020, 03:33 PM   #11939
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Bigger question is how far understated are China's numbers? I would imagine, at least, they had 500,000 to 600,000 cases. Take 3% of that to get a more likely death total as well.
Communism is frustrating. I wish there was a better way to confirm their data. As Trump said initially, not much you can really do except accept their numbers and hope they are true.

At this point, I would definitely lean towards them being very under reported and censoring negative results.

This would mean to me, and this is just a wild guess, that their true cases & mortality rates are both higher than reported.
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