Why is Mahomes incapable of running a 4 minute offense

[Coach]

Originally Posted by Papi

The exception to that rule is TB12. You just don't ****ing give him the ball with 2 min left.

Counter argument, you don't give Mahomes the ball with 38 seconds left as well.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Papi

The exception to that rule is TB12. You just don't ****ing give him the ball with 2 min left.

You aren't thinking about the other offense when you're trying to score.

You're just trying to score. Everything else is secondary.

If you **** around and trying to score in X amount of time you end up not scoring. Because you wasted plays trying to "run clock" on a drive where your goal was to SCORE.

[mnchiefsguy]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

People don't even know what a four-minute offense is.

Hint: it's not something you run when you're behind.

This. I have no idea why this thread is even here. There was no situation on Sunday where the Chiefs needed the four minute offense.

Defense just did not get it done, pure and simple.

[ChiTown]

Originally Posted by mnchiefsguy

This. I have no idea why this thread is even here. There was no situation on Sunday where the Chiefs needed the four minute offense.

Defense just did not get it done, pure and simple.

Yep. It's like our fans are stuck on reerun and can't get out of the vicious cycle of stupid.......

[Iconic]

Originally Posted by Simplicity

Sooo you're saying they didn't do enough to win the game and it wasn't Dee Ford's fault for lining up offsides? Dude we get it, they didn't score in the first half.... They did more than enough to make up for it in the second half. The offense is literally the only ****ing reason we even had a pulse in this game and this whole season.

Yes.

[Simplicity]

Originally Posted by Iconic

Yes. They score even 1 point in the first half and we are currently in a rep thread cheering a SB appearance.

and you don't think Belichick doesn't do anything different in the WHOLE 2nd half we didn't score 1 more point in the first half? Holy shit hindsight is ****ing brilliant. Way to go man. You really know how to analyze situations after they already have happened.

[Iconic]

Originally Posted by Simplicity

and you don't think Belichick doesn't do anything different in the WHOLE 2nd half we didn't score 1 more point in the first half? Holy shit hindsight is ****ing brilliant. Way to go man. You really know how to analyze situations after they already have happened.

Point is getting shut out in the first half while being the most prolific offense evarrrrr is not 'doing enough'. We don't have, and never had a good defense all season that could make key stops. So I have no idea why you insist on betting on it being able to make those stops today of all days.

[Simplicity]

Originally Posted by Iconic

Point is getting shut out in the first half while being the most prolific offense evarrrrr is not 'doing enough'.

So now your main argument is the offense didn't score enough in the first half but you were just complaining about the offense scoring in the 2nd half. I mean I get your point to an extent but c'mon. Yes I understand the offense didn't score in the first half and that is very frustrating and is warranted for criticism but you cannot tell me Reid, Mahomes, and the rest of the offense didn't do enough to win that game despite the first half struggles... Dee Ford being offsides literally lost the game. Coin flip (which I always thought was such a shitty and un-controllable way to decide NFL overtime games) lost us the game. The phantom roughing the passer call lost us the game. Everything else that happened in that game was enough to be in ATL in 2 weeks. It might've not been pretty (Erving's hold, Defense inability to stop the run game early, missed throws, etc) but we would still be in the Super Bowl.

[DRM08]

Originally Posted by Simplicity

So now your main argument is the offense didn't score enough in the first half but you were just complaining about the offense scoring in the 2nd half. I mean I get your point to an extent but c'mon. Yes I understand the offense didn't score in the first half and that is very frustrating and is warranted for criticism but you cannot tell me Reid, Mahomes, and the rest of the offense didn't do enough to win that game despite the first half struggles... Dee Ford being offsides literally lost the game. Coin flip (which I always thought was such a shitty and un-controllable way to decide NFL overtime games) lost us the game. The phantom roughing the passer call lost us the game. Everything else that happened in that game was enough to be in ATL in 2 weeks. It might've not been pretty (Erving's hold, Defense inability to stop the run game early, missed throws, etc) but we would still be in the Super Bowl.

"If" can be applied to many plays in that game. Chiefs had their chances and just didn't execute well enough in all 3 phases of the game.

[FringeNC]

Mahomes didn't have an HOF caliber game but we did score 31 in the second half.

It's simply unreal that the Chiefs have zero SB appearances with the offenses they've had under Vermeil and Reid. Guys off the street would have been better than Greg Robinson, Gunther, and Sutton.

[kcclone]

There is plenty of blame to go around. Pat and the entire offense looked like they sh*t their pants in the first half. 0 points. OL couldn’t protect Mahomes on the Patriot blitz. Two overthrows that would have ended in points. B&B were ready to go in to half up 7, until Reid calls a TO.... then Pats convert and find themselves with enough time to keep going down the field.

4Q the D couldn’t get Brady off the field with about 6+ chances with 3rd and long.

If Sutton isn’t fired and we can’t address some defensive personnel holes in the draft, I can envision a scenario where Reid and the Chiefs peak in year one of the Mahomes era and never are able to capitalize again.

[bevischief]

Reid

[Sure-Oz]

This thread sucks... first year starter destroyed the NFL this year and will only get better.

[kcpasco]

They had the ball with a chance to win in regulation. Andy elected for a coin toss rather than risk an INT. The problem is fat boy.

[eDave]

Originally Posted by Iconic

Yeah yeah yeah defense sucks ass and Mahomes got us to OT. Cool, I don't give a flying ****. Mahomes and Andy have serious ****ing issues they need to fix. And to be frank I think it's a Mahomes issue more than an Andy one. He seems obsessed with the deep ball even when we very clearly don't need it or want it. Like he literally threw bomb after bomb on our second to last drive and one of those bombs almost got picked.

I love Mahomes as much as anyone else, but I'm hoping this isn't some weird Favre like bullshit that plagues his career forever. Hopefully Andy can drill him into being a smarter QB.

Take a breath and realize how stupid you sound. It's all good man. Get a grip.