How will YOU vote on the Stadium issue? - Page 8

Sig Kauffman · 10-10-2004, 01:34 PM

Shall a retail sales tax of one-fourth (1/4) of one cent be levied and collected in Kansas and
Missouri metropolitan Culture District (“Bistate Metropolitan District”) consisting of Johnson
County, Kansas and Jackson County, Missouri, and such other counties which are or may
become part of the Bistate Metropolitan District and which authorize this tax to be levied
(each a “Participating County”), including the counties of Clay and Platte in Missouri and
Wyandotte in Kansas?

**grandllama** · 11-02-2004, 08:23 PM

Doesn't look like its going to make it in Clay Co... 75% reporting still 52% NO 47% YES

**grandllama** · 11-02-2004, 08:35 PM

Channel 9 is projecting.... drum roll

BISTATE II - Failed.

VonneMarie · 11-02-2004, 08:36 PM

It's dead.

Yes 38,950 47%
No 43,588 52%
Precincts Reporting - 89%

Bi State Tax Jackson County Question 1
Candidate Votes Percent Winner
Yes 84,428 57%
No 61,763 42%
Precincts Reporting - 42%

Bi State Tax Johnson County Question 1
Candidate Votes Percent Winner
Yes 53,883 50%
No 53,883 50%
Precincts Reporting - 24%

TOD 8:36 pm.

Spott · 11-02-2004, 08:41 PM

Lamar and Carl should have to pay for it themselves. They've been gouging us Chiefs fans for years with higher ticket prices, parking, etc. every year since CP took over.

VonneMarie · 11-02-2004, 08:43 PM

**** that. I was in it for the arts.

I do agree those greedy owners should pay for it themselves.

jcroft · 11-02-2004, 08:47 PM

That's too bad, I think. I'm well out of the voting district, so I can't really complain (since I didn't vote), but I do think this needed to pass. I don't think it was perfect by any means, but it sounds to me like if we don't get BISTATE II, we aren't going to get much of anything for the stadiums and arts. That sucks.

Demonpenz · 11-02-2004, 08:51 PM

The only thing i hope is that if a good well written tax comes along, people actually vote yes for it.

11-02-2004, 08:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Demonpenz

The only thing i hope is that if a good well written tax comes along, people actually vote yes for it.

I'd be all over that. I can't believe how poorly this one was conceived and presented. Hell, if the Chiefs hadn't gone on a 2 game win streak, it wouldn't have been close.

tk13 · 11-02-2004, 08:57 PM

Well I guess that's not unexpected. I expect, and hope, a movement for a new stadium will start soon. It's a tough call, fans don't want to pay for that stuff, and I understand where the owners come from too... they don't own the stadiums and it doesn't always make sense to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on something you do not own. David Glass would probably be dead before he was able to finish paying off these improvements, unless he pockets the money and doesn't raise payroll through the extra revenue generated, which defeats the purpose of the whole thing in the first place.... it's a shame that the Royals have to suffer because A) they're forced to play in a league of owners who have no concern for competitive balance and B) they have to work hand in hand with the Chiefs who are obviously worth a lot more money and people really don't think they need the help, which they might not, but I think it hurts the Royals. I think the Chiefs might be a few years away from needing some help depending on how many of these new money-making stadiums come into the league, but I really was hoping the Royals could catch a break here.... especially with as much bitching as I see about them not being able to retain enough players.

OPChief · 11-02-2004, 09:33 PM

Hell No. What a joke.

**Bowser** · 11-02-2004, 09:36 PM

I voted yes. I thought that is what Phobia wanted.

Mark M · 11-03-2004, 07:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by VonneMarie

**** that. I was in it for the arts.

That's why it got my vote.

But, apparently, a majority of people in the KC area are against paying $3 a f**king month so their children can get better art education.

I guess the back of the kids' menu at Applebee's is enough for some folks ... or Jamie Farr at the New Theatre Restaurant.

Quote:

I do agree those greedy owners should pay for it themselves.

Yes and no. They don't own the stadiums, so I can understand why they don't want to pay to fix them. Maybe the county can sell the stadiums to them and let them do what they want ...

I think it just comes down to the fact that a majority of people want to be a major league city with great stadiums. They just don't want to have to pay for it. Typical something-for-nothing mentality ...

MM
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View Poll Results: How will YOU vote on the Stadium Issue Nov. 2?
Yes	41	43.16%
No	26	27.37%
Undecided	5	5.26%
Not Voting	23	24.21%
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10-10-2004, 01:34 PM
Sig Kauffman Adopt-a-Chief... Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: I-70 & Blue Ridge Cutoff Casino cash: $10004900	How will YOU vote on the Stadium issue? Shall a retail sales tax of one-fourth (1/4) of one cent be levied and collected in Kansas and Missouri metropolitan Culture District (“Bistate Metropolitan District”) consisting of Johnson County, Kansas and Jackson County, Missouri, and such other counties which are or may become part of the Bistate Metropolitan District and which authorize this tax to be levied (each a “Participating County”), including the counties of Clay and Platte in Missouri and Wyandotte in Kansas?
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11-02-2004, 08:23 PM	#106
grandllama Hi, I'm Llama Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Colts Hell Casino cash: $10004900	Doesn't look like its going to make it in Clay Co... 75% reporting still 52% NO 47% YES __________________ How to I put something here?
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11-02-2004, 08:35 PM	#107
grandllama Hi, I'm Llama Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Colts Hell Casino cash: $10004900	Channel 9 is projecting.... drum roll BISTATE II - Failed. __________________ How to I put something here?
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11-02-2004, 08:36 PM	#108
VonneMarie Don't look over here Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10008987	It's dead. Yes 38,950 47% No 43,588 52% Precincts Reporting - 89% Bi State Tax Jackson County Question 1 Candidate Votes Percent Winner Yes 84,428 57% No 61,763 42% Precincts Reporting - 42% Bi State Tax Johnson County Question 1 Candidate Votes Percent Winner Yes 53,883 50% No 53,883 50% Precincts Reporting - 24% TOD 8:36 pm.
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11-02-2004, 08:41 PM	#109
Spott Court Jester Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Orlando Casino cash: $2712400	Lamar and Carl should have to pay for it themselves. They've been gouging us Chiefs fans for years with higher ticket prices, parking, etc. every year since CP took over.
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11-02-2004, 08:43 PM	#110
VonneMarie Don't look over here Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10008987	**** that. I was in it for the arts. I do agree those greedy owners should pay for it themselves.
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11-02-2004, 08:47 PM	#111
jcroft Thread-Stopper Extrodinaire Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Seattle, WA Casino cash: $10004900	That's too bad, I think. I'm well out of the voting district, so I can't really complain (since I didn't vote), but I do think this needed to pass. I don't think it was perfect by any means, but it sounds to me like if we don't get BISTATE II, we aren't going to get much of anything for the stadiums and arts. That sucks. __________________ Jeff Croft jeffcroft.com
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11-02-2004, 08:51 PM	#112
Demonpenz Woman should only make babies Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Apartment "G UNIT!" Casino cash: $2862136	The only thing i hope is that if a good well written tax comes along, people actually vote yes for it. __________________
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11-02-2004, 08:57 PM	#114
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1632500	Well I guess that's not unexpected. I expect, and hope, a movement for a new stadium will start soon. It's a tough call, fans don't want to pay for that stuff, and I understand where the owners come from too... they don't own the stadiums and it doesn't always make sense to spend hundreds of millions of dollars on something you do not own. David Glass would probably be dead before he was able to finish paying off these improvements, unless he pockets the money and doesn't raise payroll through the extra revenue generated, which defeats the purpose of the whole thing in the first place.... it's a shame that the Royals have to suffer because A) they're forced to play in a league of owners who have no concern for competitive balance and B) they have to work hand in hand with the Chiefs who are obviously worth a lot more money and people really don't think they need the help, which they might not, but I think it hurts the Royals. I think the Chiefs might be a few years away from needing some help depending on how many of these new money-making stadiums come into the league, but I really was hoping the Royals could catch a break here.... especially with as much bitching as I see about them not being able to retain enough players.
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11-02-2004, 09:33 PM	#115
OPChief Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Shawnee, KS Casino cash: $10004900	Question 1 Hell No. What a joke.
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11-02-2004, 09:36 PM	#116
Bowser sorta mod-ish Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: KC North Casino cash: $3111616	I voted yes. I thought that is what Phobia wanted.
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