So who got the better QB, K.C. or Denver? - Page 8

Kclee · 05-02-2006, 10:18 AM

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ted/index.html

Yep, last year's overrated/underrated column was right on. Darren Sproles underrated? Check. Fabian Washington overrated? Check. In fact I bet this is another congratulatory call coming in now... Oh crap, it's Bears coach Lovie Smith. "You know I'm never going to let you live down that Tommie Harris/overrated bit two years ago."

Yeah, yeah, I know. Eli Manning still calls to taunt me every two weeks as well. What can I say, some years pan out better than others.

But I've got a good feeling about 2006.

Quarterback
Overrated: Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt
Let me start by saying I do think the pride of the Commodores could well be a solid NFL quarterback. Considering he spent much of his career running from unblocked pass-rushers and throwing to third-rate SEC receivers (until last season, when freshman stud Earl Bennett came on the scene), Cutler's accomplishments at Vandy -- 3,073 yards, 21 touchdowns and nine interceptions as a senior -- were nothing short of remarkable. But the mere fact that many among the NFL cognoscenti are even thinking about taking Cutler ahead of the most dangerous quarterback to come through the college ranks in years (hint: rhymes with "rinse tongue") makes Cutler overrated -- and raises serious questions about how some of these scouts themselves would perform on the Wonderlic.

Underrated: Brodie Croyle, Alabama
Considering how much emphasis the NFL puts on arm strength, you'd think they'd be falling all over themselves for this guy. Croyle has a gun (just ask the Florida secondary). His mechanics are impeccable and his natural leadership abilities had a great deal to do with the Tide jumping out to a 9-0 start last season. I'm sure his substantial injury history (he underwent shoulder and ACL surgeries while in Tuscaloosa) is helping to knock him down the pecking order, but the fifth-year senior was a picture of health last season when he completed nearly 60 percent of his passes for 2,499 yards, 14 touchdowns and just four interceptions. This, despite the fact he played behind a horrendous offensive line that allowed 39 sacks and had to work with a largely unreliable receiving corps after Tyrone Prothro went down with a broken leg.

King_Chief_Fan · 11-05-2008, 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by BudLightBronco420

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!

We have a winner.

Jay Cutler.

yes you did....he has helped the Broncos so much so far. I hear crys from Bronco land about the good ol days with Plummer

vailpass · 11-05-2008, 01:17 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

yes you did....he has helped the Broncos so much so far. I hear crys from Bronco land about the good ol days with Plummer

Yes, Denver sucks ass right now. What happened to the AFC Worst this year?

Still, it IS kind of funny reading all the posts in this thread saying Brokie Croyle is an actual NFL caliber QB.

King_Chief_Fan · 11-05-2008, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Yes, Denver sucks ass right now. What happened to the AFC Worst this year?

Still, it IS kind of funny reading all the posts in this thread saying Brokie Croyle is an actual NFL caliber QB.

I agree. There were numerous dead wrong people about that.
In fact, I think there are still a few who still think he has the tools to be NFL.

beach tribe · 11-05-2008, 01:20 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Yes, Denver sucks ass right now. What happened to the AFC Worst this year?

Still, it IS kind of funny reading all the posts in this thread saying Brokie Croyle is an actual NFL caliber QB.

Had he not gotten broken, he would've been.

**Bowser** · 11-05-2008, 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by BudLightBronco420

DING! DING! DING! DING! DING!

We have a winner.

Jay Cutler.

Sweet bump, just to brag on Cutler. Guess you guys win. Congrats?

Quote:

Originally Posted by vailpass

Yes, Denver sucks ass right now. What happened to the AFC Worst this year?

Still, it IS kind of funny reading all the posts in this thread saying Brokie Croyle is an actual NFL caliber QB.

Croyle has the skills to start in the NFL, but what he doesn't have is the ability to stay healthy.

King_Chief_Fan · 11-05-2008, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

Had he not gotten broken, he would've been.

the fact that he is always brokens speaks volumes that he never will be

Mr. Laz · 11-05-2008, 01:22 PM

i like the Croyle selection

good value for the 3rd round and IF he could of stayed healthy he might of been a solid NFL starter.

he couldn't .... too bad.

vailpass · 11-05-2008, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Bowser

Sweet bump, just to brag on Cutler. Guess you guys win. Congrats?

Croyle has the skills to start in the NFL, but what he doesn't have is the ability to stay healthy.

Exactly when did you get a chance to determine that? Was it during one of his losses before/between injuries?
Were you able to determine his ability to make reads and go through his progressions while the little birdies were singing around his head?

beach tribe · 11-05-2008, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

the fact that he is always brokens speaks volumes that he never will be

That's why it's "had he not gotten broken". I don't think he'll get another shot, unless someone else goes down.

Tools to be? Yeah.

Durability to? No.

King_Chief_Fan · 11-05-2008, 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

That's why it's "had he not gotten broken". I don't think he'll get another shot, unless someone else goes down.

Tools to be? Yeah.

Durability to? No.

we never saw the tools. how do we know they existed?
Ryan Leaf "had to the tools" in college, but we know how that worked out.

BigRock · 11-05-2008, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by BudLightBronco420

We have a wiener.

Jay Cutler.

You sure do.

vailpass · 11-05-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

we never saw the tools. how do we know they existed?
Ryan Leaf "had to the tools" in college, but we know how that worked out.

In some ways it's funny that Thigpen might be the QB Brokie was supposed to be.
Ask Tom Brady if it's ok to take the job when the other guys get hurt.

**Bowser** · 11-05-2008, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

Exactly when did you get a chance to determine that? Was it during one of his losses before/between injuries?
Were you able to determine his ability to make reads and go through his progressions while the little birdies were singing around his head?

Yes. I have a better football eye/mind than you do. Bitch.

King_Chief_Fan · 11-05-2008, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by vailpass

In some ways it's funny that Thigpen might be the QB Brokie was supposed to be.
Ask Tom Brady if it's ok to take the job when the other guys get hurt.

I am very anxious to see how Thigpen does against Denver. You all just might get swept this year.

beach tribe · 11-05-2008, 01:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by King_Chief_Fan

we never saw the tools. how do we know they existed?
Ryan Leaf "had to the tools" in college, but we know how that worked out.

That's all I'm saying.

Ryan Leaf had a broken brain, Brodie, a broken body.

We'll never get the chance to find out if he could have done jack.

05-02-2006, 10:18 AM
Kclee Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Casino cash: $10014147	So who got the better QB, K.C. or Denver? http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/200...ted/index.html Yep, last year's overrated/underrated column was right on. Darren Sproles underrated? Check. Fabian Washington overrated? Check. In fact I bet this is another congratulatory call coming in now... Oh crap, it's Bears coach Lovie Smith. "You know I'm never going to let you live down that Tommie Harris/overrated bit two years ago." Yeah, yeah, I know. Eli Manning still calls to taunt me every two weeks as well. What can I say, some years pan out better than others. But I've got a good feeling about 2006. Quarterback Overrated: Jay Cutler, Vanderbilt Let me start by saying I do think the pride of the Commodores could well be a solid NFL quarterback. Considering he spent much of his career running from unblocked pass-rushers and throwing to third-rate SEC receivers (until last season, when freshman stud Earl Bennett came on the scene), Cutler's accomplishments at Vandy -- 3,073 yards, 21 touchdowns and nine interceptions as a senior -- were nothing short of remarkable. But the mere fact that many among the NFL cognoscenti are even thinking about taking Cutler ahead of the most dangerous quarterback to come through the college ranks in years (hint: rhymes with "rinse tongue") makes Cutler overrated -- and raises serious questions about how some of these scouts themselves would perform on the Wonderlic. Underrated: Brodie Croyle, Alabama Considering how much emphasis the NFL puts on arm strength, you'd think they'd be falling all over themselves for this guy. Croyle has a gun (just ask the Florida secondary). His mechanics are impeccable and his natural leadership abilities had a great deal to do with the Tide jumping out to a 9-0 start last season. I'm sure his substantial injury history (he underwent shoulder and ACL surgeries while in Tuscaloosa) is helping to knock him down the pecking order, but the fifth-year senior was a picture of health last season when he completed nearly 60 percent of his passes for 2,499 yards, 14 touchdowns and just four interceptions. This, despite the fact he played behind a horrendous offensive line that allowed 39 sacks and had to work with a largely unreliable receiving corps after Tyrone Prothro went down with a broken leg.
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