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Old 04-29-2007, 11:15 PM  
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The more I learn about it, the more I love it. I never knew how complex it was. This is the first year that I've gotten into the draft, and it's made it that much more exciting. I so can't wait for the season to start!

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Old 05-01-2007, 07:44 PM   #106
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Luv, the cap is simple.

The Chiefs, and every other team, basically have a set amount of money to spend on 53 players every year. I think it's about $110 million at the moment.

It increases every offseason to account for...inflation, or some bullshit.

It's done this way so the NFL doesn't become like major league baseball. Where the Yankees are the best team more often than not because they have the most money to spend on players.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:24 PM   #107
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Luv, the cap is simple.

The Chiefs, and every other team, basically have a set amount of money to spend on 53 players every year. I think it's about $110 million at the moment.

It increases every offseason to account for...inflation, or some bullshit.

It's done this way so the NFL doesn't become like major league baseball. Where the Yankees are the best team more often than not because they have the most money to spend on players.
This will be fun to think about then. My analytical mind LOVES numbers.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:29 PM   #108
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Luv, the cap is simple.

The Chiefs, and every other team, basically have a set amount of money to spend on 53 players every year. I think it's about $110 million at the moment.

It increases every offseason to account for...inflation, or some bullshit.

It's done this way so the NFL doesn't become like major league baseball. Where the Yankees are the best team more often than not because they have the most money to spend on players.
You are basically right with the exception that many of the teams have the money to spend but the owners just don't want to spend like old George.

It would be interesting to see how rich each of the owners might be and how much they actually invest of their own money. As far as investing their own money I'd bet that George is #1.
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:34 PM   #109
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Old 05-01-2007, 10:38 PM   #110
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:48 PM   #111
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Okie dokie. Is there a chart of some sort that has players listed and how much they're making spread out over the time of their contract? Like ESPN or kcchiefs.com or something?
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Old 05-01-2007, 11:52 PM   #112
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Okie dokie. Is there a chart of some sort that has players listed and how much they're making spread out over the time of their contract? Like ESPN or kcchiefs.com or something?
Well Fox Sports has a page that is supposedly the salaries for this year. Not sure how accurate it is:

http://msn.foxsports.com/nfl/teamSal...tegoryId=67049

Failing that, NFLPA.org has a player search feature, not sure how accurate the numbers are:

http://www.nflpa.org/Resources/ActivePlayerSearch.aspx

Here is LJ's page, as you can see he's been paid peanuts:
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:12 AM   #113
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Salary cap is something I'll have to research on my own, I think.

Any other need to knows?
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:14 AM   #114
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"To prevent this, a veteran player who receives no bonuses in his contract may be paid the veteran minimum of up to $810,000, while only accounting for $425,000 in salary cap space."

O.K. I had it all down until this part...
Hey! Look! This thread seems to be helping more than just me. That makes me feel good.
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:22 AM   #115
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Salary cap is something I'll have to research on my own, I think.

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Well, when a player signs a contract, it'll usually be reported as "7 years, $50 million dollars." That figure strokes their ego, but in reality they won't see all that money. The only portion that is guaranteed is their signing bonus.

So don't freak out when LJ signs an $80 million dollar deal sometime in the next few months.
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Well, when a player signs a contract, it'll usually be reported as "7 years, $50 million dollars." That figure strokes their ego, but in reality they won't see all that money. The only portion that is guaranteed is their signing bonus.

So don't freak out when LJ signs an $80 million dollar deal sometime in the next few months.

Although he's worth it...
Why won't they see it? And how is the signing bonus figured?
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Old 05-02-2007, 12:25 AM   #117
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Why won't they see it? And how is the signing bonus figured?
Because usually contracts are backloaded, with huge portions of the salary dumped at the end of the contract - if the player is old or declining, the team can just cut or trade him in order to avoid paying that money.

A good example is Eric Hicks, who was cut yesterday because he's being paid 4 million dollars to sit on his ass basically.

The signing bonus is just negotiated on and agreed upon by the player, his agent and the team.
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Because usually contracts are backloaded, with huge portions of the salary dumped at the end of the contract - if the player is old or declining, the team can just cut or trade him in order to avoid paying that money.

A good example is Eric Hicks, who was cut yesterday because he's being paid 4 million dollars to sit on his ass basically.

The signing bonus is just negotiated on and agreed upon by the player, his agent and the team.
$50 over 7 years comes out to $7.14 million per year. THey don't get paid each year?
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$50 over 7 years comes out to $7.14 million per year. THey don't get paid each year?
They get paid by the week during the season I believe (i.e the term "game checks"). It is not always evened out. A player might get a few hundred thousand one year and a few million the next year.

A player will get cut because he is making too much money one season compared to the year before - unless he is worth that money. Kendrell Bell was asked to restructure his contract this year or the year before because he's basically a waste of skin.

He was also denied a $10 million roster bonus (money awarded for being on the roster at a certain date), because he sucked ass basically. That's just one of many incentives that might be built into a contract. The Chiefs may have put incentives in Trent Green's contract like "throw X number of touchdown passes and get paid this much."
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$50 over 7 years comes out to $7.14 million per year. THey don't get paid each year?

Basic example, a team signs someone to a 5 year deal worth 30 million. In year one they make 2 million, year two 3 million, year three 5 million, year four 8 million, and year five 12 million. Teams backload the contract to make it seem that the players are making more.
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