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Old 04-27-2008, 02:40 PM  
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Draft Analysis: Croyle Undisputed #1 QB?
So does this mean Croyle is Herm's guy?
After all the speculation and coveting of Brohm and Ryan and others, KC did not draft a QB (through the 6th rd).

What do you think? From my foxhole, it looks like Herm/Gailey are willing to go into 2008 with Croyle at #1 on the depth chart.
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Old 04-27-2008, 09:52 PM   #106
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No, I can see his point of view. Will Croyle struggle? Probably so, because that he's techically still a rookie, and that he'll have new starters upfront, again.

But the talent around him should be improved (much) than the talent that was in the last six games of the 07 season.

And Gailey should be an improvement over Solari, without a doubt. I mean, JFC, you seen his photo? It looks really 'special'
Thanks, Tex. Having Charles' speedy wheels and cuts in on that draw play won't hurt a bit. Old timers will recall Todd McNair having a guady 6 ypc avg in the early 90s as a 3rd down back. Great receiver, too.
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Old 04-27-2008, 10:29 PM   #107
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Like I said earlier, I think Brady Quinn will be looking to get out of Cleveland someday.
Or maybe Rogers out of Green Bay.
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Old 04-27-2008, 10:30 PM   #108
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Would you give up a #1 in '09 for Quinn?
No. He is over-rated.
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Old 04-27-2008, 10:38 PM   #109
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Lets put it this way if Croyle has a bad year this team will have the #1 pick..you know what that leads to.
Oher.
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Old 04-27-2008, 10:47 PM   #110
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I wonder if Ryan was their first choice, and since he was already taken, they took Dorsey. IIRC, didn't they said that Dorsey wasn't their top choice at the time?
They said the top two players on their board were McFadden and Dorsey.
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Old 04-27-2008, 10:49 PM   #111
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They said the top two players on their board were McFadden and Dorsey.
And like I said earlier, I'm glad the Raiders picked McFadden.
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Old 04-27-2008, 10:56 PM   #112
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I'm really on Croyle's bandwagon and hope he makes a lot of sniff'n'toss fans eat crow. Having said that I wish I were reading an article or two about how he is hitting the gym this off-season to gain about 15 pounds of muscle.
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No. He is over-rated.
You tell me. Is he better or worse than Ryan?

Who would you be willing to pick higher?...
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I'm really on Croyle's bandwagon and hope he makes a lot of sniff'n'toss fans eat crow. Having said that I wish I were reading an article or two about how he is hitting the gym this off-season to gain about 15 pounds of muscle.
I wish I could say I see it in Croyle, but I don't. He's erratic as hell at times and hasn't shown any poise in the pocket. He also tends to force things. I think we'll be looking for his replacement after this upcoming season. He's undersized and besides have a cannon for an arm I wouldn't exactly call him accurate. He seems like a good kid, but I regretfully don't see him as our long-term franchise QB.
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Old 04-27-2008, 11:03 PM   #115
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You tell me. Is he better or worse than Ryan?

Who would you be willing to pick higher?...
Ryan, in about 0.00001 seconds. I've never seen Quinn as anything special.

As for trading for him, the dude went 22nd last year. No way in hell I'd give up a first round pick in '09, after he's rotted on the bench for two years gaining (presumably) no meaningful NFL experience. Particularly a high first rounder. Whether it's his fault or not, the situation in Cleveland isn't raising his value...

If Anderson gets hurts and he lights it up, different story.

Maybe it ends up being a situation like SD with Brees and Rivers down the line.
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You tell me. Is he better or worse than Ryan?

Who would you be willing to pick higher?...
It's too early to know. Last year this time nobody looked any good for the 08 draft except Brohm. QBs emerge every year. I hope it won't be our problem next year anyway. I just don't like Quinn that much because I saw him in a couple of games and wasn't impressed.
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I wish I could say I see it in Croyle, but I don't. He's erratic as hell at times and hasn't shown any poise in the pocket. He also tends to force things. I think we'll be looking for his replacement after this upcoming season. He's undersized and besides have a cannon for an arm I wouldn't exactly call him accurate. He seems like a good kid, but I regretfully don't see him as our long-term franchise QB.
He was given a knives to go to machinegun fights. Show me one person who would be poised in that situation. When 6 0r 7 D-players are in your face the moment the ball is snapped your accuracy and consistancy is in the shitter.
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QB's Anthony Morelli from Penn State and Paul Smith from Tulsa went undrafted; either deserve a look at the #3 or the PS.
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I'm really on Croyle's bandwagon and hope he makes a lot of sniff'n'toss fans eat crow. Having said that I wish I were reading an article or two about how he is hitting the gym this off-season to gain about 15 pounds of muscle.
The only thing I see Croyle hitting in the off season is his wife. He is still going to be a paper-mache target this year.
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He set some Michigan passing records and UM QBs have a long track record of success at starting QBs in the NFL.
Ok, everyone knows Tom Brady and I'll even give Jim Harbaugh, but really?

John Navarre
Drew Henson
Brian Griese
Todd Collins
Elvis Grbac

Color me unimpressed.
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