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Old 02-18-2009, 08:58 PM  
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Someone explain to me what makes Aaron Curry worth the 3rd pick?
Since I'm seeing people starting to lean that way I really want to know...he's not a rusher 9 1/2 sacks in 4 years...he has nearly as many INT's as he does sacks over the course of his college career...

Does this mean he's a bad player no it doesn't, but the type of LB he is does not make him worth a top 5 pick. Fathom this Ernie Sims was taken 10 as a traditional 4-3 OLB he's a very nice player...is he a difference maker up in Detroit, he's not. And it can be easily argued that he's more naturally gifted than Curry is..the OLB position in a 4-3 is not a game changing core position.

Not to mention you could sign the #1 LB on the market of FA for half of what you'd have to pay Curry to do the same thing.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:30 PM   #106
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Sounds like Super Bowl hype to me. Either way, you're presenting a false choice there because the Chiefs need both, especially with our roster.
Why is it so hard to understand that you get better value if you take a QB first then sign or draft a LB later on?

The odds of finding a productive LB in rounds 2-UDFA pretty good the odds of finding a QB there pretty bad.

See is that hard to grasp?
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:31 PM   #107
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Best post so far. This either or shit is getting old.
I don't think anyone is doing this.

No one advocating the drafting of a QB--I'm talking about the regular posters--discounts the value and importance of defense.

But we have to be realistic. This draft, what do we have the best chance of improving/solidifying with the #3 overall pick?

There isn't an elite defensive player worthy of the pick, yet there are two quarterbacks. We don't have one of these. Conveniently, it's the most important position on the field.

We don't need a LT, and there isn't a freakish WR on the board. Let's not even discuss RB.

I don't think it's a difficult decision at all.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:31 PM   #108
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We cant draft a QB this year because Carl failed 26 years ago with Blackledge.
Carl should've traded up for Elway. Idiot.
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:31 PM   #109
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Sounds like Super Bowl hype to me. Either way, you're presenting a false choice there because the Chiefs need both, especially with our roster.
Try reading comprehension... I said I want a QB and a CHANCE to win a superbowl...

I never said that it was a slam dunk like you said it was....
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:32 PM   #110
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Actually I've yet to see anyone make a well reasoned logical argument for Curry, other than "our LB's suck" really well our team sucks so how's that fly?
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Old 02-18-2009, 10:32 PM   #111
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It's a fine post but we aren't gonna win a bowl with our best player being a strong side LB either...

Pass on a QB this year then we're stuck next year with no QB and a bunch of high level defensive players at the top of the draft.
I agree and I want a QB though IMVHO I think Stafford is the only franchise type QB in this draft. I know people will disagree with that but that is cool.

It is just this either or shit that is bothersome.

My trust is in Pioli.
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Actually I've yet to see anyone make a well reasoned logical argument for Curry, other than "our LB's suck" really well our team sucks so how's that fly?
Everytime you guys argue why we should draft Sanchez you always go back to saying "Thigpen sucks and cant play in a pro style" how is this any different?
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If Aaron Curry was a game changing defensive end this would be a great argument but...he's not.

The most important things on the field are QB DE and LT the Chiefs have a LT there's no DE that should make the pick a no brainer right?
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Everytime you guys argue why we should draft Sanchez you always go back to saying "Thigpen sucks and cant play in a pro style" how is this any different?
There have been a lot of posts that address Sanchez's strengths and explain why he's worthy of the selection.
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Everytime you guys argue why we should draft Sanchez you always go back to saying "Thigpen sucks and cant play in a pro style" how is this any different?
Let me explain something Mark Sanchez as a good NFL starting QB is more valuable than Aaron Curry if he's a great strong side LB.
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That is NOT HOW YOU DRAFT, how many of those great Steelers LB's were high draft picks..oh yea Lawrence Timmons was taken like 20th none of the other ones were first round picks by them..

The LB position is filled in the middle rounds, or even UDFA the Steelers and Ravens are examples of this, they are not examples that you take non rushers in the top 10.
Not how who drafts? You? Draft Potential over productivity because of position? Hello Gholston! Thats worked out well!

Who cares when they were drafted?! A great player is a great player. Scouts missed them. You think teams wouldnt love to pick them higher if they coulod go back? Ray was a late first rounder. Merriman went top ten. Again just because Brady was a 6th rounder you dont wait late and pass up a guy if he's the best guy available.
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Everytime you guys argue why we should draft Sanchez you always go back to saying "Thigpen sucks and cant play in a pro style" how is this any different?
Do you research before you post? There are plenty of threads talking about Sanchez's pros and cons...

Mecca is very honest about both...
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I don't think anyone is doing this.

No one advocating the drafting of a QB--I'm talking about the regular posters--discounts the value and importance of defense.

But we have to be realistic. This draft, what do we have the best chance of improving/solidifying with the #3 overall pick?

There isn't an elite defensive player worthy of the pick, yet there are two quarterbacks. We don't have one of these. Conveniently, it's the most important position on the field.

We don't need a LT, and there isn't a freakish WR on the board. Let's not even discuss RB.

I don't think it's a difficult decision at all.
I think that is a well reasoned post DeeNutz and hard to argue with. I disagree about Sanchez but I am really not excited about anyone else so I am kind of torn.
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Everytime you guys argue why we should draft Sanchez you always go back to saying "Thigpen sucks and cant play in a pro style" how is this any different?
The two are mutually exclusive.

Thigpen is not an NFL QB at this point in time. He can't play effective behind center.

Aaron Curry isn't a linebacker in the mold of Derrick Thomas or Lawrence Taylor. He's not Ray Lewis or Mike Singletary. He's just a good, all-around linebacker. Not someone worthy of the 3rd overall pick.
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There have been a lot of posts that address Sanchez's strengths and explain why he's worthy of the selection.
There's always one that legitimately points out his strengths while the others hop on the bandwagon and talk about our present qb situation.
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