Chiefs Sanchez will throw at combine. - Page 8

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-20-2009, 08:33 AM

Okay, I have been critical of this kid from the start. I really want a franchise QB, but I don't want the Chiefs to reach. There are a lot of QB's that go high under the theory that 'this may be our 'best' chance to get a franchise QB'.

But, with ALL things, I try to be fair minded. I love the fact that this kid is willing to do the full workout at the combine. That shows confidence. That shows courage.

Now, it may also show a lack of level headed decision making. And, at the QB position, you want a guy that doesn't force things. But, I must admit, that I like this move.

BigCatDaddy · 02-20-2009, 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Saccogoo

Gresham would have been the best receiver in this draft if he came out. Guy is a freak. Personally, I'd love to see the Chiefs look seriously at him next year. And their offensive line, especially in college, was utterly dominant.

Good so they didn't have a dominant WR. Gresham was the 3rd best TE in the conference this year. They were good, but not dominant by any means. OU has had better in the Stoops era.

-King- · 02-20-2009, 03:11 PM

Off topic, but did anybody read about this kid Devin Moore? Showed some heart and love for the game today. Wyoming running back Devin Moore wasn’t invited to the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis.

So he held his own.

On Thursday, Moore performed in T-shirt and shorts for scouts who were in town for the much bigger party for which someone who isn’t good enough at scouting to get a scouting job with an NFL team deemed Moore to be unworthy to attend.

According to Gil Brandt of NFL.com and Sirius NFL Radio, representatives from 14 teams attended the workout.

Moore ran the 40-yard dash in 4.43 and 4.41 seconds. Per Brandt, the 4.41 would have been the fifth-fastest time at running back at last year’s Combine.

(That said, we haven’t seen or heard whether the times will be adjusted based on any possible differences between the surface on which Moore ran and the FieldTurf at Lucal Oil Stadium in Indy.)

Moore also jumped 35 inches vertically, 10 feet broadly, pressed 225 pounds 27 times, ran the short-shuttle in 4.22 and 4.29 seconds, and performed the three-cone drill in 7.14 seconds.

Since Moore resides in Indianapolis, he was permitted to arrange a workout there. Otherwise, he would have had to wait until the Wyoming Pro Day.

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-20-2009, 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by smittysbar

Your comparing a 22 year old to a 7 year old?

Believe it or not at 22 years of age, most can think for themselves. You can go to war at 18, become a cop at 21, but I am sure that he can't make the correct decision regarding HIS life at 22.

He is going in the first and possibly very high in the 1st, I think it would have been a mistake not to come out. I think Bradford made a mistake going back, but it's just my opinion.

Sorry. I was kind of a jerk there.

I think a junior that has played at least two full years is fine coming out. I think a junior that has only started one year at the QB position should go back.

I joined the Navy at 18. I thought I was doing what was 'best' for me. I then became a Deputy Sheriff at 22, because I thought I was doing what was 'best' for me. I got married at 22, again... thought it was best for me.

All of them were mistakes....and frankly, I think this is a mistake for him too.

But, that is jmho.

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-20-2009, 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Which is why we've pilloried the spread monkeys coming out next year.

Nice try, you dumb ****.

That is just more rationalization for taking a QB THIS year.

SenselessChiefsFan · 02-20-2009, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by MWagg72

Like I said what he felt it was best for him and his family. They could tell him to stay in school, but he did what he felt was right.

Also, the same way alot of athletes have girls do that same stuff. A backup sophomore can become a jr/sr starter. She would only get the money when he's going pro anyway. You would have to file charges after they hook up also you can't wait till he is the starter and go oh yeah 2 years ago he raped me.

He can do wrong, he is my 2nd best QB in the draft, but I feel he is still worth a #3 pick. IF he would happen to fall, it would be because of his limited experience not his ability, attitude/off field behavior, or anything else really.

Do you know that the girls mother is who called the police. Again, there is NO way that she can get money out of this. Now, it could be some other motive, but the money angle is BS.

She can't get money to not file charges if he won't have any for two years.

Rigodan · 02-20-2009, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

That is just more rationalization for taking a QB THIS year.

I think the fact that Tyler Thigpen was our stater last year and that there are 2 QB's deemed worthy to be taken in the top 10 is enough rational for taking a qb this year.

For the record I would take Sanchez with the number one pick if we were in that position.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 02-20-2009, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by SensibleChiefsfan

Do you know that the girls mother is who called the police. Again, there is NO way that she can get money out of this. Now, it could be some other motive, but the money angle is BS.

She can't get money to not file charges if he won't have any for two years.

No I didn't know that, I've only heard about it vaguely and have not gotten all details. From what I have heard it sounded to me like a Kobe thing. From what I have heard, he was not charged with anything due to lack of evidence. The three witnesses, one of which was a friend of both Sanchez and the girl and another was Cushing, all supported Sanchez. Also, I saw that times were messed up her initial report said that the assault happened at 12:30, but Sanchez was still at the bar at this time. Then the reports said 1:30 when Sanchez was helping 2 other USC Students push their car, which had ran out of gas, to a parking stall.

The money thing is what I still see in this. Just because he didn't have the money she was looking for in 2006 doesn't mean a guy who was once regarded as the top high school QB in the country won't have money. It's like Sherron Collins was originally to pay around $75k to the girl that said he did the elevator stuff, when he was only a sophomore. She saw NBA dollars...even if he doesn't go to the NBA people still see it.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-20-2009, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

I still don't think there was much talent around Bradford, and the differences in offensive systems between OU and USC don't matter.

Next year is going to be an epic quarterback class. Visions of '83.

1883, however. Like the Brooklyn Bridge stampede. I still can't believe that mother****er held.

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He asked, and he received!

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Originally Posted by CanadaKC

If you read Don Banks this morning...Sanchez lovers will have a fit. He said he almost guarantees the Lions do NOT take a QB with their #1 overall pick...rather one of the top OT's. That means St Louis will probably take the other OT...leaving us drafting Stafford, Curry, or Sanchez...IMO. If Stafford is passed on by the Lions...he's going to us rather than Sanchez.

And I will have NO problem with that whatsoever. Just like a rational, knowledgeable football fan should.

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Of course they will. Because most of the people hoping that the Chiefs select Sanchez are so myopic in their analysis of the relative value of the quarterback position that there is no way that these same people could understand the positive qualities of Stafford and his allure to a franchise.

No way.

Those ****ing dumbshits, who when discussing the upside (note this word, those who like to misconstrue posts) of Stafford and Sanchez have been comparing the two to Elway and Aikman, will certainly shit themselves.

Excuse me while I go wipe. ****.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-20-2009, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by MWagg72

No I didn't know that, I've only heard about it vaguely and have not gotten all details. From what I have heard it sounded to me like a Kobe thing. From what I have heard, he was not charged with anything due to lack of evidence. The three witnesses, one of which was a friend of both Sanchez and the girl and another was Cushing, all supported Sanchez. Also, I saw that times were messed up her initial report said that the assault happened at 12:30, but Sanchez was still at the bar at this time. Then the reports said 1:30 when Sanchez was helping 2 other USC Students push their car, which had ran out of gas, to a parking stall.

The money thing is what I still see in this. Just because he didn't have the money she was looking for in 2006 doesn't mean a guy who was once regarded as the top high school QB in the country won't have money. It's like Sherron Collins was originally to pay around $75k to the girl that said he did the elevator stuff, when he was only a sophomore. She saw NBA dollars...even if he doesn't go to the NBA people still see it.

It's a bunch of ****ing bullshit. The guy didn't play in Blacksburg VA. for Christ's sake.

Pasta Little Brioni · 02-20-2009, 05:02 PM

Sanchez is not a "reach". Alot of people have him as a top 3 pick already and his combine will solidify that.

**Kyle DeLexus** · 02-20-2009, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by PGM

Sanchez is not a "reach". Alot of people have him as a top 3 pick already and his combine will solidify that.

Great opinion on the subject!

In my expert opinion, I agree with you.

I am an expert on this btw. I once was an assistant JH Football coach for a 3 year span. After seeing one kid play for just one full practice, I proclaimed "that kid's gonna be 6'5", 230lbs, and have a laser rocket arm." That particular kid had a little brother who would watch the practices and was kind of the team mascot. He was just a little tike then, but people sure loved him because of his big brother.

Pioli Zombie · 02-20-2009, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by MWagg72

Great opinion on the subject!

In my expert opinion, I agree with you.

I am an expert on this btw. I once was an assistant JH Football coach for a 3 year span. After seeing one kid play for just one full practice, I proclaimed "that kid's gonna be 6'5", 230lbs, and have a laser rocket arm." That particular kid had a little brother who would watch the practices and was kind of the team mascot. He was just a little tike then, but people sure loved him because of his big brother.

what??

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-20-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by KcChiefsKing

Off topic, but did anybody read about this kid Devin Moore? Showed some heart and love for the game today. Wyoming running back Devin Moore wasn’t invited to the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis.

So he held his own.

On Thursday, Moore performed in T-shirt and shorts for scouts who were in town for the much bigger party for which someone who isn’t good enough at scouting to get a scouting job with an NFL team deemed Moore to be unworthy to attend.

According to Gil Brandt of NFL.com and Sirius NFL Radio, representatives from 14 teams attended the workout.

Moore ran the 40-yard dash in 4.43 and 4.41 seconds. Per Brandt, the 4.41 would have been the fifth-fastest time at running back at last year’s Combine.

(That said, we haven’t seen or heard whether the times will be adjusted based on any possible differences between the surface on which Moore ran and the FieldTurf at Lucal Oil Stadium in Indy.)

Moore also jumped 35 inches vertically, 10 feet broadly, pressed 225 pounds 27 times, ran the short-shuttle in 4.22 and 4.29 seconds, and performed the three-cone drill in 7.14 seconds.

Since Moore resides in Indianapolis, he was permitted to arrange a workout there. Otherwise, he would have had to wait until the Wyoming Pro Day.

I don't understand this. He was a really productive player. He's a little small, but no smaller than a lot of other backs in the league. He'd be a great change of pace back for a team like the Giants.

Sweet Daddy Hate · 02-20-2009, 06:59 PM

Iglesias, you wonderful, wonderful young man:

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Oklahoma wide receiver Juagin Iglesias

Will spread offense work in NFL

“I don’t see it because I think in the NFL the defenses are too fast. It’s hard to get people like that in the NFL out of their zone. They’re disciplined they’re mature, they know what they’re doing. That’s the biggest thing in college is getting people out of their zone and get them uncomfortable and on their heels and in the NFL that doesn’t really happen much on defense.”

**dirk digler** · 02-20-2009, 07:02 PM

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Iglesias, you wonderful, wonderful young man:

Apparently he didn't watch the AFC West D's this year

On the flip side Chase Daniels was on 610 this afternoon and he said in his informal interviews last night all the teams told him that in 1-2 years 80% of the teams in the NFL will be running some version of the spread offense as their primary offense.

Now they could be blowing smoke up his ass but that is what he was told.

02-20-2009, 08:33 AM
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-King- ▓▓▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▒▓▓ Join Date: Jan 2009 Casino cash: $-1434257	Off topic, but did anybody read about this kid Devin Moore? Showed some heart and love for the game today. Wyoming running back Devin Moore wasn’t invited to the Scouting Combine in Indianapolis. So he held his own. On Thursday, Moore performed in T-shirt and shorts for scouts who were in town for the much bigger party for which someone who isn’t good enough at scouting to get a scouting job with an NFL team deemed Moore to be unworthy to attend. According to Gil Brandt of NFL.com and Sirius NFL Radio, representatives from 14 teams attended the workout. Moore ran the 40-yard dash in 4.43 and 4.41 seconds. Per Brandt, the 4.41 would have been the fifth-fastest time at running back at last year’s Combine. (That said, we haven’t seen or heard whether the times will be adjusted based on any possible differences between the surface on which Moore ran and the FieldTurf at Lucal Oil Stadium in Indy.) Moore also jumped 35 inches vertically, 10 feet broadly, pressed 225 pounds 27 times, ran the short-shuttle in 4.22 and 4.29 seconds, and performed the three-cone drill in 7.14 seconds. Since Moore resides in Indianapolis, he was permitted to arrange a workout there. Otherwise, he would have had to wait until the Wyoming Pro Day.
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