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Old 03-03-2009, 07:35 AM  
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Who thinks Cassel is the next Len Dawson?
I read in Gretz's column this morning that the Chiefs are trying to prevent all the fans from thinking that Cassel is the second coming of Len Dawson. He went on to say that it was impossible, because Chiefs fans already think that.

I am wondering who? Who really thinks that? I like the move because it gives us a good prospect for a second round pick. I like the move because I feel like Cassel is at the very least, a John Kitna type QB who can manage the game. That is a nice 'starting' point. It solidifies the position. They aren't under any pressure to draft a guy early to try to 'solve' a problem. Now, they can draft guys late at the QB position in hopes of developing them down the road.

I don't even look at Cassel as the absolute starter on opening day. Yes, I think it is likely that happens. However, if Thigpen takes a big step forward, and Cassel doesn't look great, then Thigpen 'could' be the guy.

In other words, I don't think that Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I 'hope' Cassel is the next Len Dawson. I think Cassel is still ascending in his career.

Heck, I hope that Cassel is the next Trent Green. Seriously, if Cassel can be as effective in this system as Green was in Saunder's system... then the Chiefs made a great move. Especially considering that Cassel would be able to play for a decade here, or nearly twice as long as Trent Green.

Anyways, I don't get the sense that the Chiefs fans think this guy is the next Len Dawson. Am I wrong? Do you think he is the next Len Dawson?
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:57 AM   #106
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Matt Cassel career CHIEFS stats:

57.1%
6.39 YPA

Trent Green career Chiefs stats:

61.9%
7.7 YPA
Give Trent Green the Chiefs current defense and it is reasonable to think they could have made a legit Super Bowl run.
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Old 04-29-2012, 08:59 AM   #107
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How about we just let Cassel be the first Matt Cassel?
According to his Chiefs stats he's roughly the second Steve Bono.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:01 AM   #108
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Matt Cassel career CHIEFS stats:

57.1%
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Trent Green career Chiefs stats:

61.9%
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Trent was surrounded with a great cast on offense but the defense couldn't stop a team led by Pee Wee Herman.
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Old 04-29-2012, 09:04 AM   #109
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Wow what a shock, you are spewing Fat Scott's talking points that the Chiefs don't have any immediate needs to fill on the roster.

Teams like the NY Giants don't have immediate needs and can afford to draft strictly for depth in the early parts ot he draft.

Teams like the Chiefs who are coming off a 7-9 season and set the franchise record for fewest points scored per game don't have that luxury.
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Give Trent Green the Chiefs current defense and it is reasonable to think they could have made a legit Super Bowl run.
On the one hand, I am "spewing Fat Scott's talking points".

On the other, this team, with Trent Green, could make a legit SB run.

Which is it?
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Old 04-29-2012, 10:21 AM   #110
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:06 PM   #111
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:21 PM   #112
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Give Trent Green the Chiefs current defense and it is reasonable to think they could have made a legit Super Bowl run.
Those '03 and '04 teams with our current defense would have been unstoppable.
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Old 04-29-2012, 12:56 PM   #113
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Old 04-29-2012, 01:31 PM   #114
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On the one hand, I am "spewing Fat Scott's talking points".

On the other, this team, with Trent Green, could make a legit SB run.

Which is it?
JFC You are a dumbshit.

Let's walk through this nice and slowly so even someone at your advanced age can comprehend.

What position did Trent Green play? QB

Where is the Chiefs biggest hole on their roster? QB

What is the most important position in the NFL currently towards winning a Super Bowl? QB
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But does he like Kansas City's restaurant's?
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Old 04-29-2012, 01:52 PM   #116
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Old 04-29-2012, 01:55 PM   #117
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Matt Cassel career CHIEFS stats:

57.1%
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Trent Green career Chiefs stats:

61.9%
7.7 YPA
Difference being, Trent Green knew how to manage an offense.
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Old 04-29-2012, 01:56 PM   #118
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JFC You are a dumbshit.

Let's walk through this nice and slowly so even someone at your advanced age can comprehend.

What position did Trent Green play? QB

Where is the Chiefs biggest hole on their roster? QB

What is the most important position in the NFL currently towards winning a Super Bowl? QB
I am not the dipshit who doesn't get it.

On the one hand, you bitch about that lack of talent on this roster, telling me that I "spew Fat Scott's tlking points.

On the other, you claim that Trent Green would be capable of leading this team to a SB.

QB is our biggest hole.
Everyone knows that.

But you don't get to SB with a roster devoid of talent, even with an outstanding QB.

So, which is it?
Is this team lacking the talent, or is this team that is a QB away from contending?

You can't have it both ways, dipshit.
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Old 04-29-2012, 03:49 PM   #119
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Well, at least we were wrong about Tamba, if only we could say the same thing about Mark Castle..
Well mine at least was at least kind of tongue in cheek I thought there was a chance Tamba could pull it off.
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Well mine at least was at least kind of tongue in cheek I thought there was a chance Tamba could pull it off.
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