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Old 05-20-2009, 12:27 PM  
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Teicher: Offense is the Chiefs' biggest problem
I went to the Chiefs’ first full offseason practice wondering more about their defense, but I left with more questions about the offense.

Let’s start with the offensive line: Very thin without Brian Waters there. They’ve got two starters who are over 30 — Damion McIntosh is 32, Mike Goff is 33 — and both those guys had better hold up or the Chiefs might be in some trouble. Very thin as far as depth; very few proven experienced guys as backups.

The receiving group without Tony Gonzalez: I’m wondering, like everybody else, how that’s going to all play out. Dwayne Bowe dropped some balls and made some nice catches also, but he looked a lot like the Dwayne Bowe we saw last year. The Chiefs really need him to be more consistent because you’ve got Mark Bradley and Bobby Engram behind him. Engram is 36. Not a lot of depth there, either.

The running game with Larry Johnson: You’ve heard me say before the Chiefs need Johnson. He’s their running game. I didn’t really see a guy who’s capable of handling the every-down load like Johnson is. They used Jamaal Charles like they did last year as a third-down back.

Matt Cassel didn’t have one of his better days, but he’s the least of the Chiefs’ concerns right now. It was a windy day; I’ve seen him throw indoors since joining the Chiefs at an earlier minicamp, and there’s no problem with Matt Cassel.

Chan Gailey: I have a lot of respect for him. He did a great job turning the offense around last year after a rotten start and all the quarterback problems. But he’s going to have to earn his money again this year, because there are a lot of issues with the Chiefs offensively.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/chi...y/1206906.html


Not sure if this is a repost or not, but very interesting considering our defense was 2nd worst in the league last year. Your thoughts?
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:44 PM   #106
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Have you ever even seen the guy play, this is funny, he is today a more complete player than Larry Johnson.
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:46 PM   #107
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He might be a better blocker but I doubt he is a better receiver (LJ is still getting unfairly criticized after a couple of dropped passes three ****ing years ago he is a GOOD receiver) and you're nuts if you think Moreno is putting up 1700 yards.
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:47 PM   #108
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It's really kind of crazy. We have some pretty decent RBs. In fact, I recall that a lot of peeps considered us to be deep at the RB position last year. Problem is, our overall offense was so inconsistent and the line so poor, we couldn't really get any of these guys in a rhythm or even get a good feel for their potential.

Any reasonable person has to chalk LJ up as a question mark at this point - for a variety of reasons. Charles has potential and could probably develop, but he hasn't been given much of a chance. Change of pace guy? Maybe, but he needs to be able to fill out his game ... blocking, pass receiving, etc. Cheesy is the probably the closest thing we have to an all-purpose back, but he's been injured and hasn't played much since the 2007 season. Have we cut or traded Battle? He's an unknown as is Javarris.

Personally, I think we're an utter mystery at that position. Not that it matters, much. You can't run it if you can't block it. Somebody tell Pioli that we need to rebuild the OL back to its status in the glory days. Once that's accomplished, our RBs will be much better.

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Old 05-20-2009, 05:50 PM   #109
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Everyone in the league has RB's that's kind of the point, there's maybe a handful of teams that have issue at the position.
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Old 05-20-2009, 05:51 PM   #110
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Everyone in the league has RB's that's kind of the point, there's maybe a handful of teams that have issue at the position.
The Chiefs suck at the position, right?
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They're ok at the position other than the issue of having an aging player with a huge contract at an expendable position.
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That's true, Mr. Mecca. It's real early. Frankly, I'm far more concerned about OL than RB. I haven't seen our OL put a solid, complete game in the books for years.

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They're ok at the position other than the issue of having an aging player with a huge contract at an expendable position.
Yeah shit LJ is eating up ALL the cap room.

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I love that excuse, yea we're under the cap it doesn't matter so we can overpay guys!
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I can't believe we're actually having an argument that someone WOULD take that slow mother****er over LJ.

LJ will outproduce Knowshon Sloweno in 09. WRITE IT DOWN!
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He might be a better blocker but I doubt he is a better receiver (LJ is still getting unfairly criticized after a couple of dropped passes three ****ing years ago he is a GOOD receiver) and you're nuts if you think Moreno is putting up 1700 yards.
Moreno won't rush for 1700 yds because that's not the system McDaniels runs. He might approach it in all-purpose yds, though.
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I love that excuse, yea we're under the cap it doesn't matter so we can overpay guys!
His contract is essentially irrelevant. It was big when he signed it. Now, not so much.

Quit bitching and get ready for more 65-yard runs. God.
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No, you have missed the point.

The statistics bear out that if Thigpen and Cassel threw an equal number of passes, over the course of a season, Thigpen would turn the ball over more.
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Amazing, this reminds me of the DFB, Hootie, Claythan love fest over Huard a few years ago...

This pretty much gurantees LJ being a big worthless pussy for the upcoming season....
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This is what I posted right after the draft...

Watch I will now provide a take as to why I think this draft creates issues that has nothing to do with Scott Pioli.

Everyone knows I like Mark Sanchez right...but when you decide you are going to trade for Matt Cassel and essentially say this is our guy, you don't set him up to fail.

When the Chiefs decided they would trade Tony Gonzalez, then go into the draft which was very deep at OL and WR and proceed to draft a bunch of defensive players in what is considered a weak defensive year. This is called being married to a defensive scheme and trying to shoehorn it in no matter what.

If you want to say Tyson Jackson was the right pick you can, but after that they really should have focused on the deep OL and WR positions in the draft. Leaving Matt Cassel with 1 dependable receiver and no upgrades on the Oline is just asking for him to look bad and get his brains beat in.

That is how you ruin a player, when you take a young guy and decide he is your franchise you do things to put him in a position to succeed not fail. What the Chiefs did this weekend was not fair to Matt Cassel.
fair?

wtf?

why can't people admit that pioli and haley have their own reasons for what they did?

they looked at the team, looked at the draft, and started a process of rebuilding based on their own evaluations of players and schemes and priorities....it may turn out to be horribly wrong, it may be an epic fail....but, for the love of god admit that they have their own methods and justifications...

they clearly have different evaluations of which problems needed to be addressed first, and which could wait, and what type of duress Cassel can manage for a year....
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