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Old 09-15-2009, 12:52 PM  
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Hank Baskett released....
Adam_SchefterEagles have taken Michael Vick off exempt list and he will begin practicing Wednesday. To make room for him, team released Hank Baskett.

He'd be worth a look...
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Old 09-15-2009, 06:56 PM   #106
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What I want to see is how they'll handle things if we get a ridiculously talented player who is so skilled that he doesn't do things the "right way."

A Fitz-level player. Sick talent.

Wins make things look pretty darn right...
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:00 PM   #107
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"The best 53" is the new "gleam."
Always thought that sounded gay, but you know what. That was the last Chiefs coach to actually field a team, a real ****ing team.

If it's "not that I believe it is" the new gleam "so be it" but there is much, much more to it. Marty is a great coach, and can no doubt build a damn good team, but what he lacks "IMHO" is getting all the pieces to fit together. I think he changed his style a little with the chargers and he almost pulled it off.

The the owner came in Carl style and they went their separate ways. Now all you here is How the Chargers are the most talented team to never win a Superbowl. Hmmmm
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:03 PM   #108
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What I want to see is how they'll handle things if we get a ridiculously talented player who is so skilled that he doesn't do things the "right way."

A Fitz-level player. Sick talent.

Wins make things look pretty darn right...
Sorry, he can hit the ****ing bricks. It's a slap in the face with what they are trying to do. Marty on the other hand would do it and well, as much as I want a good team, I want one to win the superbowl. Look at pitt, NE, all the good ones. I watched Owens the other night and kind of felt sorry for him. Asshole is never going to get it. Moss seems to
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:06 PM   #109
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Always thought that sounded gay, but you know what. That was the last Chiefs coach to actually field a team, a real ****ing team.

If it's "not that I believe it is" the new gleam "so be it" but there is much, much more to it. Marty is a great coach, and can no doubt build a damn good team, but what he lacks "IMHO" is getting all the pieces to fit together. I think he changed his style a little with the chargers and he almost pulled it off.

The the owner came in Carl style and they went their separate ways. Now all you here is How the Chargers are the most talented team to never win a Superbowl. Hmmmm
If you need one coach to prepare a team well and win a regular season game, no matter how shitty the overall talent level on the roster, Marty would be a damn fine choice. Dude can flat out coach.

Unfortunately, that's not the ultimate goal, and, for whatever reason, Marty isn't a closer.

Too bad, really.

My positive Marty feelings all came back when I saw him at DT's induction ceremony.
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It's too bad marty didn't win 1 SB, he is a great coach imo
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:15 PM   #111
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What I want to see is how they'll handle things if we get a ridiculously talented player who is so skilled that he doesn't do things the "right way."

A Fitz-level player. Sick talent.

Wins make things look pretty darn right...
I don't think you get to be a Fitz-level player without also "doing it the right way". Know what I mean? Take a look across the league at the truly elite players and you're not going to find many guys, if ANY, that get by on talent alone.

After all, look at what they did with Bowe. So far nobody that they cut was high on talent but low on doing it their way. They were low on talent.
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:19 PM   #112
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I don't think you get to be a Fitz-level player without also "doing it the right way". Know what I mean? Take a look across the league at the truly elite players and you're not going to find many guys, if ANY, that get by on talent alone.

After all, look at what they did with Bowe. So far nobody that they cut was high on talent but low on doing it their way. They were low on talent.
Moss pre-NE might be the only exception I can think of...

He was pretty sick in MN but left with nothing to show for it, so it still ends up supporting your assertion above.

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Old 09-15-2009, 07:30 PM   #113
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Did anybody actually listen to Haley's press conference today?

HALEY: “Again, I’m looking for guys who do it the way we want it done. Like I tell them: are you doing it how we’re coaching you and then it comes down to how well are you able to do it. Talent is the great separator. There may be some guys who are doing it the way we want it done but maybe they’re just not good enough. Then maybe there are some guys that probably potentially could be really good but they’re not doing it the way we want it done.

In other words, when they say they want the RIGHT 53, they're looking for a combination of talent AND work ethic. Notice the underlined portion of the quote: to him, those two guys - the guy that works hard but isn't talented, and the guy that's talented but doesn't work hard - are EQUAL.

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I don't think you get to be a Fitz-level player without also "doing it the right way". Know what I mean? Take a look across the league at the truly elite players and you're not going to find many guys, if ANY, that get by on talent alone.

After all, look at what they did with Bowe. So far nobody that they cut was high on talent but low on doing it their way. They were low on talent.
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Why is everybody ignoring me?!?!?!

Fine. I'll play. When he made the "53" comment, he probably thought that the fanbase wouldn't be such go-tards and think he could win with highschoolers with big hearts. Either that or he didn't realize what kind of douchebags Herm put on the field last year.

FTR, I think Bowe COULD be a Fitz type talent if he had Fitz type FOCUS and WORK ETHIC. Which he currently does not.

There happy?
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Old 09-15-2009, 07:53 PM   #114
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Moss pre-NE might be the only exception I can think of...

He was pretty sick in MN but left with nothing to show for it, so it still ends up supporting your assertion above.

Good point.
Yeah, I thought about Moss especially. But then I remembered how many conference championships he won prior to arriving in New England.

So I'll stand by it - I think the truly great players have the talent AND the work ethic.
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Yeah, I thought about Moss especially. But then I remembered how many conference championships he won prior to arriving in New England.

So I'll stand by it - I think the truly great players have the talent AND the work ethic.
Absolutely, you do not get to that kind of level without working your tail off.
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I don't think you get to be a Fitz-level player without also "doing it the right way". Know what I mean? Take a look across the league at the truly elite players and you're not going to find many guys, if ANY, that get by on talent alone.

After all, look at what they did with Bowe. So far nobody that they cut was high on talent but low on doing it their way. They were low on talent.
I believe in the philosophy Pioli and Haley are bringing to this franchise. Talent is paramount, but equally, so is discipline, dedication and hard work. If you build a team, you do it as a team. When your on the field you work as a unit, the WR is no more important than a gunner on Special teams. Sure the WR may have more god given talent, but both do there jobs the way it's coached and at a 100%.

The more talented player see's his reward on his paycheck, the ego shouldn't be a part of it. No one should get a free pass, period. That being said, sometimes you have to make exceptions for aging vets and keeping them healthy.
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IMO, Hank is absolutely worth a look. Haley might be able to get the best out of him.
Agreed. Hopefully they put in a claim for Baskett.
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