So... what are the Chiefs' QB options in 2011?

[chiefzilla1501]

I think it's safe to say that the Chiefs are good enough that they will probably not have a top 15 pick. I think with their easy schedule and a pretty decent squad, 8-8 is more than reasonable. That being said, Luck and Mallett are likely not in the cards.

So now what?

Would you trade the moon to get one of those two guys?

Who are some free agents worth looking at? The only one that comes to mind that might be interesting to look at is Shaun Hill--not a guy I'd revolve my franchise around, but a solid veteran that I'd be comfortable starting until we feel comfortable going with a rookie.

[aturnis]

Originally Posted by whoaskew

Really?


Cassel has completed 16 or less completions in every game this season, and his highest completion percentage in a game this year is 59.3%.

Smith has completed 21 or more completions in every game this season, and his highest completion percentage in a game this year is 71.9%.

I think we could have used an extra 5 completions today, especially on the 4th and 2 today where Matt Castoff chose to throw to the guy triple covered 20 yards down field instead of throwing to the wide open running back standing 6 feet in front of him.

It looks to me like Cassel is the only one who sucks as bad as Cassel.

Don't throw to the wide open RB in the flat. Throw to the wide open TE in the back of the endzone who never drops the ball.

[RealSNR]

Originally Posted by Sully

3rd for Skelton.

Yes plz

[aturnis]

I'm only gonna talk about guys I think we have a chance to get and I know a bit about. Also, don't care for Mallet, or Locker. Don't know much about Ponder.

Stanzi can read a defense, and has a good arm. He tends to start slow and has made bad decisions, but has kept those to a minimum this season. He wouldn't be a bad option in the mid rounds.

Foles, after the way he played Iowa, would be a good option also. Took control of that game like I saw Flacco do a few times in college. Foles is cool in the pocket, and accurate as hell. Picked apart a good Iowa D. He'd be worth a look.

Kolb/Vick. Whatever happens there. If Kolb is available, for cheap, he is a decent option. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves. He's not a stud, but could operate a good offense. Played well against the Niners tonight.

Vick, I don't think you guys have considered that Vick has no allegiance to the Iggles, and might just look for a nice contract this offseason. A team on the rise like the Chiefs could be a good landing spot if he chooses to test FA this offseason. Doesn't hurt that he claims the entire time he was locked up, he envisioned himself as the QB of the Chiefs. Get a #1 receiver in here, and he could lead this team.

Alex Smith is a no for me. While he's shown some real promise at times, he's just not going to get it. 6 TD's to 9 INT's this season. Couple that with his past, and his name has a strike through it.

[ForeverChiefs58]

Maybe a Tony Romo becomes available?

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by aturnis

I'm only gonna talk about guys I think we have a chance to get and I know a bit about. Also, don't care for Mallet, or Locker. Don't know much about Ponder.

Stanzi can read a defense, and has a good arm. He tends to start slow and has made bad decisions, but has kept those to a minimum this season. He wouldn't be a bad option in the mid rounds.

Foles, after the way he played Iowa, would be a good option also. Took control of that game like I saw Flacco do a few times in college. Foles is cool in the pocket, and accurate as hell. Picked apart a good Iowa D. He'd be worth a look.

Kolb/Vick. Whatever happens there. If Kolb is available, for cheap, he is a decent option. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves. He's not a stud, but could operate a good offense. Played well against the Niners tonight.

Vick, I don't think you guys have considered that Vick has no allegiance to the Iggles, and might just look for a nice contract this offseason. A team on the rise like the Chiefs could be a good landing spot if he chooses to test FA this offseason. Doesn't hurt that he claims the entire time he was locked up, he envisioned himself as the QB of the Chiefs. Get a #1 receiver in here, and he could lead this team.

Alex Smith is a no for me. While he's shown some real promise at times, he's just not going to get it. 6 TD's to 9 INT's this season. Couple that with his past, and his name has a strike through it.

Don't even get me started on the whole Vick delio. I have been screaming for us to pick him up ever since he became available for almost nothing.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Don't even get me started on the whole Vick delio. I have been screaming for us to pick him up ever since he became available for almost nothing.

To make matters worse there are people on this BB who will admit that we could have picked him up for nothing and he may well have led this team this year deep into the playoffs but we would come up short. So they believe he isn't the answer and will cost us draft positioning so they don't want him. Seriously WTF is that?

Then again there's always the random pic of some dog justification.

[Chris Meck]

Vick?! Uh, NO.

Hell no.

HELL NO.

First of all-he's a shitty human being. That's not even close to being a part of the 'right 53'.

Second-he's a public relations nightmare. He ran a ****ing dog fighting ring! I've been a Chiefs fan for thirty years, and I would renounce in a heartbeat if we signed that piece of shit.

and third-he has always, ALWAYS been so overrated it's ridiculous. Guy can't read a defense to save his life. He's Jamarcus Russell with wheels. Only Jamarcus might be SMARTER.

Hell no.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

To make matters worse there are people on this BB who will admit that we could have picked him up for nothing and he may well have led this team this year deep into the playoffs but we would come up short. So they believe he isn't the answer and will cost us draft positioning so they don't want him. Seriously WTF is that?

Then again there's always the random pic of some dog justification.

Or the fact that he can be shut down by a team that knows how to blitz him. He's not a good QB. He's a guy who can torch an average defense but doesn't read defenses well enough to beat the really good ones. He had a lot of success in the NFC because the Falcons never played anyone. I don't understand why so many people here are high on Vick.

If there's a veteran QB that we completely missed out on, it's McNabb. He's 100 times the QB Vick is.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

Vick?! Uh, NO.

Hell no.

HELL NO.

First of all-he's a shitty human being. That's not even close to being a part of the 'right 53'.

Second-he's a public relations nightmare. He ran a ****ing dog fighting ring! I've been a Chiefs fan for thirty years, and I would renounce in a heartbeat if we signed that piece of shit.

and third-he has always, ALWAYS been so overrated it's ridiculous. Guy can't read a defense to save his life. He's Jamarcus Russell with wheels. Only Jamarcus might be SMARTER.

Hell no.

Thanks for proving my point.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by aturnis

I'm only gonna talk about guys I think we have a chance to get and I know a bit about. Also, don't care for Mallet, or Locker. Don't know much about Ponder.

Stanzi can read a defense, and has a good arm. He tends to start slow and has made bad decisions, but has kept those to a minimum this season. He wouldn't be a bad option in the mid rounds.

Foles, after the way he played Iowa, would be a good option also. Took control of that game like I saw Flacco do a few times in college. Foles is cool in the pocket, and accurate as hell. Picked apart a good Iowa D. He'd be worth a look.

Kolb/Vick. Whatever happens there. If Kolb is available, for cheap, he is a decent option. Anyone who says otherwise is kidding themselves. He's not a stud, but could operate a good offense. Played well against the Niners tonight.

Vick, I don't think you guys have considered that Vick has no allegiance to the Iggles, and might just look for a nice contract this offseason. A team on the rise like the Chiefs could be a good landing spot if he chooses to test FA this offseason. Doesn't hurt that he claims the entire time he was locked up, he envisioned himself as the QB of the Chiefs. Get a #1 receiver in here, and he could lead this team.

Alex Smith is a no for me. While he's shown some real promise at times, he's just not going to get it. 6 TD's to 9 INT's this season. Couple that with his past, and his name has a strike through it.

I would rather Kevin Kolb than Vick. I don't think he's nearly as bad as he's criticized for being. If you give him protection, he can be dangerous. He doesn't get that consistently in Philly. Their o-line is complete garbage.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

Or the fact that he can be shut down by a team that knows how to blitz him. He's not a good QB. He's a guy who can torch an average defense but doesn't read defenses well enough to beat the really good ones. He had a lot of success in the NFC because the Falcons never played anyone. I don't understand why so many people here are high on Vick.

If there's a veteran QB that we completely missed out on, it's McNabb. He's 100 times the QB Vick is.

McNabb is up one day and throwing INT's the next. Somebody with a decent team is going to give Vick a chance and he is going to do some pretty awesome stuff. Mark my words, you will see Vick going deep in the playoffs with some team soon.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

I would rather Kevin Kolb than Vick. I don't think he's nearly as bad as he's criticized for being. If you give him protection, he can be dangerous. He doesn't get that consistently in Philly. Their o-line is complete garbage.

Vick you can pick up for a hope and a prayer. What was the contract Kolb just signed?

[Chris Meck]

whatever. Not going to happen.

[BIG_DADDY]

Originally Posted by Chris Meck

whatever. Not going to happen.

Well we agree on that.

[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

McNabb is up one day and throwing INT's the next. Somebody with a decent team is going to give Vick a chance and he is going to do some pretty awesome stuff. Mark my words, you will see Vick going deep in the playoffs with some team soon.

Mark my words, a team that can blitz and get into the backfield is going to neutralize Vick every single time. As can a team that can contain him and throw a lot of different looks at the same time. He's a great runner, but he's not a very good QB. McNabb has a lot more of the tools to be successful in the playoffs.