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Old 11-07-2010, 10:42 PM  
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Who is the biggest goat?
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In my opinion Bowe and Flowers are more to blame than Cassel. I'd rank the blame game this way:

Flowers
Bowe
Cassel

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Old 11-07-2010, 11:36 PM   #106
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Clutch? I specifically recall 2 passes in a row thrown towards Bowe that weren't within 10 yards of him.
Do you realize how hard it is to have 3 incomplete passes, a sack and an interception on 5 consecutive plays on the same red zone series? Clutch!
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:36 PM   #107
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So, what exactly does placing blame accomplish?
For guys and football, placing blame for a loss is like a woman struggling to find a reason why the guy wont return their calls the next day.
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:37 PM   #108
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Look, it was a close game where we blew at least 10 plays. If we made half of them the game is a blow out. If we make 2 of them it is an easy win. If we make one of them it would have given us the margin of victory. But it's all Bowe's fault.
true, but we had the lead with under two minutes to play, and that drop opened the door.
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:38 PM   #109
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Biggest goat is the coaching staff for only giving Jamaal 10 carries. That is completely reeruned. I know a lot of you pansies think it's a great idea to give Jones twice as many carries, but 10 carries for an explosive threat like Jamaal Charles is utterly ridiculous. Especially when Jones is averaging 1 yard per carry.
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:38 PM   #110
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Berry's holding call took a TD return off the board.

Studebaker's holding call took a FG off the board

Nobody touches the returner on the opening kickoff of second half, giving up a TD.

Not fielding the football cleanly for the possesion in OT has us starting inside the 20 yard line, where Weiss is happy to call us an epic 3 and out series.
Yeah, they were absolutely awful.
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:39 PM   #111
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I never said it was all Bowe's fault, that would be stupid. But the title of this thread is Who is the biggest goat. I think in this situation it was Bowe for dropping that pass.
What if another player was the prime blame in a larger number of plays that had a negative impact including ones that cost us points?

One player had one bad play while another player had 10? Do you still blame the player who made one bad play?
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Old 11-07-2010, 11:42 PM   #112
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There are plenty of people on this board who fully support the lack of carries Charles is getting because "the Chiefs are winning, so it must be working."

So what about now, when the Chiefs are losing? Why does Thomas Jones continue to run into Casey Wiegmann's ass over and over and over while the most explosive player on the team sits on the sideline? How can anyone support that?
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What if another player was the prime blame in a larger number of plays that had a negative impact including ones that cost us points?

One player had one bad play while another player had 10? Do you still blame the player who made one bad play?
I dunno I guess it would depend on the situation. The other problem is that this is happens with Bowe all the time. he drops balls he should catch and today despite every other mistake we made he still costs us the game with that play.

I am not trying to downplay all of the other things we did shitty today. It just frustrates the hell out of me that despite all of the mistakes we still have our #1 wide receiver drop a routine pass in a situation that wins you the game.
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So, what exactly does placing blame accomplish?
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If you had to select only one area to drown in acid, it would be those guys. That return to start the second half combined with the fumble on the very next play hurt us ... badly.

The Cha-Raiders were who we thought they were and we let 'em off the hook.

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Old 11-07-2010, 11:47 PM   #116
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true, but we had the lead with under two minutes to play, and that drop opened the door.
The leaving 21 points on the field at half time was taking a sledge hammer to the door and reducing to splinters.

The return of the 2nd half kickoff for a TD was setting fire to the splinters.

By the time Bowe missed his play there wasn't even a damn door any more.

Flowers missing the INT, was pretty much blowing up the whole house.

Matt Cassel deciding to throw to LEONARD POPE ???? short of the sticks when Bowe was wide open to start over time was inviting them in to the kid's tree house to have tea.
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There are plenty of people on this board who fully support the lack of carries Charles is getting because "the Chiefs are winning, so it must be working."

So what about now, when the Chiefs are losing? Why does Thomas Jones continue to run into Casey Wiegmann's ass over and over and over while the most explosive player on the team sits on the sideline? How can anyone support that?
I don't think Charles was exactly 100% today ... at least he wasn't as the game wore on, Mr. thurman merman.

As for running TJ early, I figure the idea was that their run defense would eventually fold up. What we didn't anticipate was that our o-line would get their asses kicked.

It is strange that we didn't attack the edges more, though. We seemed to have some success there, yet we kept trying to gain yards between the tackles.

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The leaving 21 points on the field at half time was taking a sledge hammer to the door and reducing to splinters.

The return of the 2nd half kickoff for a TD was setting fire to the splinters.

By the time Bowe missed his play there wasn't even a damn door any more.

Flowers missing the INT, was pretty much blowing up the whole house.

Matt Cassel deciding to throw to LEONARD POPE ???? short of the sticks when Bowe was wide open to start over time was inviting them in to the kid's tree house to have tea.
Well Bowe would have probably just dropped the pass anyways
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The leaving 21 points on the field at half time was taking a sledge hammer to the door and reducing to splinters.

The return of the 2nd half kickoff for a TD was setting fire to the splinters.

By the time Bowe missed his play there wasn't even a damn door any more.

Flowers missing the INT, was pretty much blowing up the whole house.

Matt Cassel deciding to throw to LEONARD POPE ???? short of the sticks when Bowe was wide open to start over time was inviting them in to the kid's tree house to have tea.
..all those and previous plays(sans the OT)didn't matter at the moment when we were still LEADING 20 -17 with under two minutes to play...that drop on that play opened the door for the tie/OT...and the door was kicked wide open with the flag on Washington on third down.

but, even then, the Chiefs got the ball first and Weis's playcalling was crappy..they still had their chance and blew it.
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