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Old 03-13-2012, 05:58 PM  
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#Browns RB Peyton Hillis will visit the Chiefs, a source told the Plain Dealer.
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:38 PM   #106
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DJ, would you sign him or Tolbert?


and if you get one, would you be ok grabbing Lamar Miller in the draft?
Depends on the cost.

All costs being equal, Tolbert (though I think Hillis has more upside).

But if you can get Hillis on a safe, shorter term deal, he's a perfect make-good, play hard, candidate. He's Shaun Smith in your backfield.

If anything, I would worry that if a guy like Tolbert has to settle for a short-term deal in a year he thought he would cash in, you'd get mediocre effort from him while 'pouting' similar to how McClain started the year.

Like I said - I understand the risk and appreciate the concerns. But the alternative way to look at that is to view it as an opportunity to get a very skilled guy that fits our team well who is both motivated and underpriced.

Zigging when everyone else does gets you to .500. If you don't have an elite quarterback in this league, you need to go against the grain here and there.

This is a good opportunity to do just that.
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:39 PM   #107
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:40 PM   #108
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I have very little doubt that Cassel will be the game one starter due to Pioli...but I have to wonder how long his leash will be if we spend all that cap space on pieces around him and he still doesn't improve.

I truly think the guy only makes it to the halftime of the game prior to the bye week.

Then, StanziMania takes it's first steps.
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:40 PM   #109
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i like how we're recycling trash from failed Cleveland teams and passing it off as 'our future'....

Pioli must be a wizard to trot out Crennel, Daboll, and hillis as bold moves to improve the chiefs...fml

(oh yeah and cassel)
Who the **** is calling him our future?

I'll pay him when he's cheap and cut him loose when he isn't anymore. I want him for a year or two at most.

I'm not impressed by folks that debate points that only they make.
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:41 PM   #110
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Its definitely risky, dude is a flake.

The situation kinda reminds me of Ricky Williams... would we get the painfully introverted Ricky who'd rather get high with Lenny Kravitz in Barbados?

Or, the dedicated & renewed Ricky who put in some great years for the phins?
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:43 PM   #112
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Who the **** is calling him our future?

I'll pay him when he's cheap and cut him loose when he isn't anymore. I want him for a year or two at most.

I'm not impressed by folks that debate points that only they make.
i'm not impressed by people who lecture us on the right 53 signing quitters

you can cheer this all you want, he's a ****ing quitter

when the going gets tough..he's going to be what kind of influence in our locker room, exactly?
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when the going gets tough..he's going to be what kind of influence in our locker room, exactly?
Put him in the locker next to Casshole...
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Old 03-13-2012, 07:45 PM   #114
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i'm not impressed by people who lecture us on the right 53 signing quitters

you can cheer this all you want, he's a ****ing quitter

when the going gets tough..he's going to be what kind of influence in our locker room, exactly?
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I'm not going to write him off as an individual. The atmosphere got toxic and he checked out;.
The atmosphere got toxic because of him. He wasn't an innocent bystander.
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Whoever started this thread missed a big opportunity to title it "Peyton to visit Chiefs."

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Old 03-13-2012, 07:59 PM   #119
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The atmosphere got toxic because of him. He wasn't an innocent bystander.
I agree.

But is Cleveland not probably the most dysfunctional organization in the league...not in Cincinnati?

Again, I know he's risky. But we're not going to be in as good a shape as a most other teams in this league at the most important position on the field. We have to make some high risk/high reward moves in light of that if we hope to close the gap.

Hillis' track record prior to last year was superlative, he was universally regarded as a very good teammate. If you're going to take a risk, why not take it on a guy that has legit upside and not exactly a long, prolonged history of malfeasance.

If we only take sure things and pay retail for them, we're going to have a harder time getting over the hump with a mediocre or worse QB situation.
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