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ShowtimeSBMVP · 01:20 AM

Exclusive: As troubles at home simmered, Chiefs tried to help Jovan Belcher
Police said the team was providing counseling to Jovan Belcher and his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins. But Belcher, before taking his own life in the parking lot of the Chiefs’ practice facility, said it wasn’t enough to fix their problems.
By CHRISTINE VENDEL
The Kansas City Star

Seconds after fatally shooting his longtime girlfriend, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher leaned over her in their master bathroom, said he was sorry and kissed her on the forehead.

His mother, who heard gunfire as she stood in the kitchen, rushed to her son’s bedroom and watched his remorseful goodbye.

Belcher apologized to his mother, kissed his 3-month-old daughter and fled his rented home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in his Bentley.

The Star learned those details and others from multiple police sources Monday as officers continued their investigation into why Belcher, 25, killed his live-in girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, 22, on Saturday morning. Arguments over relationship and financial issues had simmered for months between them, according to the sources.

Belcher’s mother, who came from New York to live with her son so the couple could work through their issues, didn’t hear much of the argument. But just before 8 a.m., she heard her son say something to the effect of: “You can’t talk to me like that!”

Then she heard gunfire.

Afterward, Belcher drove to the only place he felt safe — to his other family at Arrowhead Stadium, police said.

As he covered the five miles from his home to the stadium, his violent act weighed on him, police believe.

“He probably realized he had done something and he couldn’t go back,” said Police Sgt. Richard Sharp.

In the parking lot of the practice facility at 1 Arrowhead Drive, Belcher encountered Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. Belcher stepped out of his Bentley with a gun pointed at his own head, police said.

“I did it,” he said, according to police. “I killed her.”

Club officials knew about the couple’s problems. The Chiefs had provided counseling and “were bending over backward” to help, Sharp said.

But Belcher told Pioli that the assistance wasn’t enough to fix their problems and now, “It was too late.”

When another Chiefs employee arrived, Pioli told him to stay back. Meanwhile Pioli tried to persuade Belcher to lay down the weapon, Sharp said.

Belcher thanked Pioli for everything he had done for him. He asked if he and Clark Hunt would take care of his daughter.

Chiefs Head Coach Romeo Crennel and linebackers coach Gary Gibbs arrived in the parking lot and Belcher reportedly announced, “Guys, I have to do this.”

Crennel tried to dissuade him.

“I was trying to get him to understand that life is not over,” Crennel told The Star. “He still has a chance and let’s get this worked out.’’

As Pioli and Crennel tried to reason with Belcher, the men heard police sirens closing in. Belcher then walked a few steps away with the gun still pointed at his head.

“I got to go,” Belcher reportedly said. “I can’t be here.”

Belcher knelt behind a vehicle and made the sign of the cross across his chest before firing a single bullet into his head.

Kansas City police believe Belcher killed himself because he was distraught over what he had done to Perkins.

“He cared about her,” Sharp said. “I don’t think he could live with himself.”

The night before the killings, Perkins had attended a concert downtown with friends, and Belcher had “partied” at the Power and Light District, police said. It was unclear when they arrived home, where Belcher’s mother was watching their baby. A woman who answered Belcher’s mother’s cell phone Monday declined to comment.

Detectives don’t know what specifically sparked the argument between the couple at home, but a friend of Perkins told The Star that the couple argued around 1 a.m. Saturday when Perkins returned home from the Trey Songz concert and drinks with friends afterward. Belcher was mad she had stayed out so late, the friend said.

Sometime later, Kansas City police talked with Belcher after finding him asleep in his Bentley on Armour Boulevard. Officers determined he was able to drive himself home. Police believe he arrived home about 7 a.m., well before a 9:30 team meeting. That’s when the yelling began.

Police said youth, immaturity and financial pressures served as a backdrop. During his college years, Belcher allegedly punched a dormitory window because he was upset over a woman.

Autopsies with toxicology tests were performed on both bodies, but results will take weeks, police said. Investigators believe alcohol may have played a role in the argument’s escalation.

Police recovered several legally owned guns from Belcher’s home. Investigators were testing each one, and the gun found with Belcher’s body, against shell casings and bullets they recovered.

Police spokesman Darin Snapp said Monday that Belcher’s mother, who had been staying with the couple, was given temporary custody of the couple’s daughter. But he said it was unclear if the grandmother and baby were still in the Kansas City area.

Perkins, who grew up in Texas, met Belcher, who grew up in New York, through a cousin, Whitney Golden Charles, the wife of Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles. Perkins moved to Kansas City in 2010 to be with Belcher. Her relatives learned of her death from the news, police said. A woman who answered the phone at a relative’s home Monday declined to comment.

Monday afternoon, the family issued a statement that spelled Perkins’ first name with a double s, though she spelled it with one on her Facebook page:

“On behalf of the Perkins Family, we appreciate the outpouring of love and concern for our Kassandra ‘Kasi’ Perkins. Our hearts are truly broken for Kasi was a beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, mother, cousin and friend.…

“Please keep us in your hearts and prayers as well as the Belcher family for two lives were loss. Again we thank you for your support, our wish is for Kasi to be remembered for the love she shared with us all. Kasi will be truly missed!”

Jamaal Charles also released a statement: “Our family has suffered a personal tragic loss.… As this is a very tough time for our family, I ask that we are respected as we grieve. Kassandra was not only family, but a friend and a loving mother. As my actual family and my Kansas City Chiefs family have been altered forever, we ask that you keep us and most importantly their child in prayer. Thank you all for your continued support.”

Later Monday, Belcher’s somber relatives provided statements outside of Belcher’s boyhood home in New York. Yamiesse Lawrence, a cousin of Belcher’s, said the weekend’s events were an “inconceivable tragedy.”

“As a family, no words can express the sorrow we feel over the loss of Jovan and Kasandra,” Lawrence read aloud.

Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/04...#storylink=cpy

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-04-2012, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by WV

If you had some inside knowledge or even firsthand knowledge of this situation I may take your opinion for something. But the bottom line is that you're just some dude interpreting a situation on an internet message board like the rest of us.

Deductive reasoning would perhaps be valid if you were an investigator working the case and had all the facts, but you are not and don't.

Yet, you're cool with calling me out.

That's just great.

WV · 12-04-2012, 02:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

The Star got their info from multiple police sources doesn't get more clearer than that.

What they are providing is hardly enough to support the case that the organization had knowledge that Belcher was capable of something like this and that has been my only point.

Hammock Parties · 12-04-2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Larry Johnson was charged PUBLICALLY in 2003 for domestic violence and holding a gun to a woman's face - FELONY aggravated assault. He pleaded down and agreed to a domestic violence program. He was charged again in 2005 and again in 2008. He played here until 2009.

Do you truly believe the Hunt's had no access to the national news regarding their own players for 6 years? Or do you expect others to believe it?

Again: the Hunts tolerated LJ because he was talented. It's a business. LJ was a valuable asset.

When he no longer became valuable, adios.

KCWolfman · 12-04-2012, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

So, newspapers lie and fabricate stories?

In what country do you reside?

Wait a second. On one argument, you believe the newspapers report accurately and substantiate your position, yet you also have the nerve to say that the Hunt's never saw any news article regarding LarryJohnson and a felonious assault against a woman with a gun over the course of 6 years while he played here?

This is just getting silly.

KCWolfman · 12-04-2012, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Cassel's Reckoning

Again: the Hunts tolerated LJ because he was talented. It's a business. LJ was a valuable asset.

When he no longer became valuable, adios.

So your original statement is obviously false. The Hunt's obviously DO tolerate players like Javon Belcher.

ShowtimeSBMVP · 12-04-2012, 02:44 AM

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Originally Posted by WV

What they are providing is hardly enough to support the case that the organization had knowledge that Belcher was capable of something like this and that has been my only point.

I Don't think we will ever find this out.

KCWolfman · 12-04-2012, 02:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Prove otherwise.

What have I "made up" in this thread, Russ?

Prove that Scott Pioli doesn't hide information from the Hunt's? As I said, just silly.

Prove he does and then you have a viable argument. Until then, it is no more than girl gossip around a cup of tea while watching General Hospital.

WV · 12-04-2012, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Yet, you're cool with calling me out.

That's just great.

Look I know it's all about you being right and all, but the only thing I'm calling you out on is that there is no way any of us have enough knowledge of the situation to extrapolate that anyone there knew Belcher was capable of his actions.

You're the one claiming to know what was going on inside Belcher's head.

WV · 12-04-2012, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsandO'sfan

I Don't think we will ever find this out.

Exactly my point.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-04-2012, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Larry Johnson was charged PUBLICALLY in 2003 for domestic violence and holding a gun to a woman's face - FELONY aggravated assault. He pleaded down and agreed to a domestic violence program. He was charged again in 2005 and again in 2008. He played here until 2009.

Do you truly believe the Hunt's had no access to the national news regarding their own players for 6 years? Or do you expect others to believe it?

Lamar Hunt had been suffering from cancer for almost a decade before he passed away. Carl Peterson was in charge of the Chiefs at that time and made an executive decision to draft LJ. Vermeil wanted Tyler Brayton and expressed that publicly.

I honestly believe that if Lamar Hunt was aware of Johnson's transgressions, he would not have been drafted. I also believe that if Clark Hunt, who at the time had little to noting to do with the Chiefs had known, Johnson wouldn't have been selected.

KCWolfman · 12-04-2012, 02:48 AM

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Originally Posted by WV

What they are providing is hardly enough to support the case that the organization had knowledge that Belcher was capable of something like this and that has been my only point.

Amen.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-04-2012, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by KCWolfman

Wait a second. On one argument, you believe the newspapers report accurately and substantiate your position, yet you also have the nerve to say that the Hunt's never saw any news article regarding LarryJohnson and a felonious assault against a woman with a gun over the course of 6 years while he played here?

This is just getting silly.

Go ahead and link that quote.

You'll quickly find I never said any such thing.

KCWolfman · 12-04-2012, 02:50 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Lamar Hunt had been suffering from cancer for almost a decade before he passed away. Carl Peterson was in charge of the Chiefs at that time and made an executive decision to draft LJ. Vermeil wanted Tyler Brayton and expressed that publicly.

I honestly believe that if Lamar Hunt was aware of Johnson's transgressions, he would not have been drafted. I also believe that if Clark Hunt, who at the time had little to noting to do with the Chiefs had known, Johnson wouldn't have been selected.

So, Larry's second contract was signed without the Hunt's knowledge as well?

That crafty bastard.

KCWolfman · 12-04-2012, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Go ahead and link that quote.

You'll quickly find I never said any such thing.

Dane, you obviously are making a straw argument based upon supposition and not in reality regarding anything with the Belcher case - and in the Johnson case as well.

Forgive me if I don't take your claims as expert knowledge, regardless of who you dated.

**DaneMcCloud** · 12-04-2012, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by WV

Look I know it's all about you being right and all, but the only thing I'm calling you out on is that there is no way any of us have enough knowledge of the situation to extrapolate that anyone there knew Belcher was capable of his actions.

You're the one claiming to know what was going on inside Belcher's head.

What the **** is wrong with you?

Please link us to a quote in which I stated that anyone knew Belcher would snap.

It's like the reerun patrol in here tonight.

12-04-2012, 12:57 AM
ShowtimeSBMVP Chiefs Join Date: Feb 2009 Casino cash: $1206009	Jovan Belcher was one sick son of B**** Exclusive: As troubles at home simmered, Chiefs tried to help Jovan Belcher Police said the team was providing counseling to Jovan Belcher and his girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins. But Belcher, before taking his own life in the parking lot of the Chiefs’ practice facility, said it wasn’t enough to fix their problems. By CHRISTINE VENDEL The Kansas City Star Seconds after fatally shooting his longtime girlfriend, Kansas City Chiefs linebacker Jovan Belcher leaned over her in their master bathroom, said he was sorry and kissed her on the forehead. His mother, who heard gunfire as she stood in the kitchen, rushed to her son’s bedroom and watched his remorseful goodbye. Belcher apologized to his mother, kissed his 3-month-old daughter and fled his rented home in the 5400 block of Crysler Avenue in his Bentley. The Star learned those details and others from multiple police sources Monday as officers continued their investigation into why Belcher, 25, killed his live-in girlfriend, Kasandra Perkins, 22, on Saturday morning. Arguments over relationship and financial issues had simmered for months between them, according to the sources. Belcher’s mother, who came from New York to live with her son so the couple could work through their issues, didn’t hear much of the argument. But just before 8 a.m., she heard her son say something to the effect of: “You can’t talk to me like that!” Then she heard gunfire. Afterward, Belcher drove to the only place he felt safe — to his other family at Arrowhead Stadium, police said. As he covered the five miles from his home to the stadium, his violent act weighed on him, police believe. “He probably realized he had done something and he couldn’t go back,” said Police Sgt. Richard Sharp. In the parking lot of the practice facility at 1 Arrowhead Drive, Belcher encountered Chiefs General Manager Scott Pioli. Belcher stepped out of his Bentley with a gun pointed at his own head, police said. “I did it,” he said, according to police. “I killed her.” Club officials knew about the couple’s problems. The Chiefs had provided counseling and “were bending over backward” to help, Sharp said. But Belcher told Pioli that the assistance wasn’t enough to fix their problems and now, “It was too late.” When another Chiefs employee arrived, Pioli told him to stay back. Meanwhile Pioli tried to persuade Belcher to lay down the weapon, Sharp said. Belcher thanked Pioli for everything he had done for him. He asked if he and Clark Hunt would take care of his daughter. Chiefs Head Coach Romeo Crennel and linebackers coach Gary Gibbs arrived in the parking lot and Belcher reportedly announced, “Guys, I have to do this.” Crennel tried to dissuade him. “I was trying to get him to understand that life is not over,” Crennel told The Star. “He still has a chance and let’s get this worked out.’’ As Pioli and Crennel tried to reason with Belcher, the men heard police sirens closing in. Belcher then walked a few steps away with the gun still pointed at his head. “I got to go,” Belcher reportedly said. “I can’t be here.” Belcher knelt behind a vehicle and made the sign of the cross across his chest before firing a single bullet into his head. Kansas City police believe Belcher killed himself because he was distraught over what he had done to Perkins. “He cared about her,” Sharp said. “I don’t think he could live with himself.” The night before the killings, Perkins had attended a concert downtown with friends, and Belcher had “partied” at the Power and Light District, police said. It was unclear when they arrived home, where Belcher’s mother was watching their baby. A woman who answered Belcher’s mother’s cell phone Monday declined to comment. Detectives don’t know what specifically sparked the argument between the couple at home, but a friend of Perkins told The Star that the couple argued around 1 a.m. Saturday when Perkins returned home from the Trey Songz concert and drinks with friends afterward. Belcher was mad she had stayed out so late, the friend said. Sometime later, Kansas City police talked with Belcher after finding him asleep in his Bentley on Armour Boulevard. Officers determined he was able to drive himself home. Police believe he arrived home about 7 a.m., well before a 9:30 team meeting. That’s when the yelling began. Police said youth, immaturity and financial pressures served as a backdrop. During his college years, Belcher allegedly punched a dormitory window because he was upset over a woman. Autopsies with toxicology tests were performed on both bodies, but results will take weeks, police said. Investigators believe alcohol may have played a role in the argument’s escalation. Police recovered several legally owned guns from Belcher’s home. Investigators were testing each one, and the gun found with Belcher’s body, against shell casings and bullets they recovered. Police spokesman Darin Snapp said Monday that Belcher’s mother, who had been staying with the couple, was given temporary custody of the couple’s daughter. But he said it was unclear if the grandmother and baby were still in the Kansas City area. Perkins, who grew up in Texas, met Belcher, who grew up in New York, through a cousin, Whitney Golden Charles, the wife of Chiefs running back Jamaal Charles. Perkins moved to Kansas City in 2010 to be with Belcher. Her relatives learned of her death from the news, police said. A woman who answered the phone at a relative’s home Monday declined to comment. Monday afternoon, the family issued a statement that spelled Perkins’ first name with a double s, though she spelled it with one on her Facebook page: “On behalf of the Perkins Family, we appreciate the outpouring of love and concern for our Kassandra ‘Kasi’ Perkins. Our hearts are truly broken for Kasi was a beloved daughter, granddaughter, sister, mother, cousin and friend.… “Please keep us in your hearts and prayers as well as the Belcher family for two lives were loss. Again we thank you for your support, our wish is for Kasi to be remembered for the love she shared with us all. Kasi will be truly missed!” Jamaal Charles also released a statement: “Our family has suffered a personal tragic loss.… As this is a very tough time for our family, I ask that we are respected as we grieve. Kassandra was not only family, but a friend and a loving mother. As my actual family and my Kansas City Chiefs family have been altered forever, we ask that you keep us and most importantly their child in prayer. Thank you all for your continued support.” Later Monday, Belcher’s somber relatives provided statements outside of Belcher’s boyhood home in New York. Yamiesse Lawrence, a cousin of Belcher’s, said the weekend’s events were an “inconceivable tragedy.” “As a family, no words can express the sorrow we feel over the loss of Jovan and Kasandra,” Lawrence read aloud. Read more here: http://www.kansascity.com/2012/12/04...#storylink=cpy Last edited by ShowtimeSBMVP; 12-04-2012 at 01:20 AM..
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