Chiefs Chiefs guard Geoff Schwartz will not return to KC - Page 8

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-10-2014, 06:56 PM

I’ve said this a few times already but it bears repeating on eve of FA: sources confirm #Chiefs guard Geoff Schwartz will not return to KC.
— Terez A. Paylor (@TerezPaylor) March 11, 2014

**The Franchise** · 03-11-2014, 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

This happened a few years ago with Wade Smith. He was a FA, everyone knew he was a decent starter and he walked to Houston. Rest is history. Schwartz is kind of similar to Wade, journeyman, play multiple positions, etc

What bugs me the most is that you can't even play it off as them getting rid of a Pioli guy. Albert and Asamoah....I can understand. Maybe you don't think they fit what you're trying to do.....or maybe you just want them gone. But you ****ing signed him last year on a 1 year deal....and then he performed for you. Logical thing to do? Sign him. Nope....let's let him go. We now have 1 starting OG on this roster unless you plan on moving Hudson and then starting Kush at C. But guess what....Hudson's contract is up after next season.

OldSchool · 03-11-2014, 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

What bugs me the most is that you can't even play it off as them getting rid of a Pioli guy. Albert and Asamoah....I can understand. Maybe you don't think they fit what you're trying to do.....or maybe you just want them gone. But you ****ing signed him last year on a 1 year deal....and then he performed for you. Logical thing to do? Sign him. Nope....let's let him go. We now have 1 starting OG on this roster unless you plan on moving Hudson and then starting Kush at C. But guess what....Hudson's contract is up after next season.

Came down to a matter of money. Schwartz has never made a lot of money anywhere and has hopped around the league on short-term contracts. We weren't going to pay him as much as the next guy so I don't blame him for leaving. I'm sure that Dorsey and Reid wanted him back, just not at the price that others were willing and, more importantly, able to pay for.

htismaqe · 03-11-2014, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by OldSchool

Zach Martin.

mcaj22 · 03-11-2014, 09:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

What bugs me the most is that you can't even play it off as them getting rid of a Pioli guy. Albert and Asamoah....I can understand. Maybe you don't think they fit what you're trying to do.....or maybe you just want them gone. But you ****ing signed him last year on a 1 year deal....and then he performed for you. Logical thing to do? Sign him. Nope....let's let him go. We now have 1 starting OG on this roster unless you plan on moving Hudson and then starting Kush at C. But guess what....Hudson's contract is up after next season.

Yea I dont understand the 1 year stop gap/band aid for the sake of a bigger hole in the offseason.

And like you said next offseason they are going to be in a worse position and will have to take a look at cutting some of the veterans with those cap eating contracts.

**The Franchise** · 03-11-2014, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

The thought of it makes me want to vomit.

kcchiefsus · 03-11-2014, 09:39 AM

I'd like to know what their plan is on the OL. We need at least 1 new starter and we have no depth to speak of. Even worse, the starters we still have are all average at best or borderline suck. This will probably be one of the league's worst OL next season.

**The Franchise** · 03-11-2014, 09:41 AM

As it is right now, without the draft, the only thing they can really do is roll....

Stephenson - Allen - Kush - Hudson - Fisher.

Fisher and Stephenson are dependent based on TC but the intelligence they're showing right now means that Fisher has already been handed the LT job.

WhawhaWhat · 03-11-2014, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kcchiefsus

I'd like to know what their plan is on the OL. We need at least 1 new starter and we have no depth to speak of. Even worse, the starters we still have are all average at best or borderline suck. This will probably be one of the league's worst OL next season.

6 WRs, 3 OL. 1 step drop and throw.

mcaj22 · 03-11-2014, 09:43 AM

we will actually have three new full time starters, our bookends will be their first full season starting at LT and RT and not just doing spot duty. And a new RG (please not a first round pick). The only constants are Jeff Allen and Rodney Hudson

doesnt sound so hot on paper when Jeff Allen is your most tenured veteran on your oline lol

RunKC · 03-11-2014, 09:46 AM

Schwartz isn't getting starting money. He's getting more than that. He's going to get way more money than he's worth.

Just my opinion, but I think Dorsey is very comfortable with Kush taking over and starting. He looked very good in the SD game.

htismaqe · 03-11-2014, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

The thought of it makes me want to vomit.

Better stock up on Dramamine.

**The Franchise** · 03-11-2014, 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by RunKC

Schwartz isn't getting starting money. He's getting more than that. He's going to get way more money than he's worth.

Just my opinion, but I think Dorsey is very comfortable with Kush taking over and starting. He looked very good in the SD game.

He's getting starting money in 2014. The cap increased.....and it will keep increasing. Thinking that you can away with paying starting money from 2010 in 2015 isn't going to win you games.

RunKC · 03-11-2014, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

we will actually have three new full time starters, our bookends will be their first full season starting at LT and RT and not just doing spot duty. And a new RG (please not a first round pick). The only constants are Jeff Allen and Rodney Hudson

doesnt sound so hot on paper when Jeff Allen is your most tenured veteran on your oline lol

LT-Fisher
LG-Allen
C-Hudson
RG-Kush
RT-Stephenson

I would not be surprised to see this going into next year.

**BigMeatballDave** · 03-11-2014, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

As it is right now, without the draft, the only thing they can really do is roll....

Stephenson - Allen - Kush - Hudson - Fisher.

Fisher and Stephenson are dependent based on TC but the intelligence they're showing right now means that Fisher has already been handed the LT job.

Fisher was drafted to play LT.

Why do most here seem to struggle with this?

ShowtimeSBMVP · 03-11-2014, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

As it is right now, without the draft, the only thing they can really do is roll....

Stephenson - Allen - Kush - Hudson - Fisher.

Fisher and Stephenson are dependent based on TC but the intelligence they're showing right now means that Fisher has already been handed the LT job.

Poor Alex

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kcchiefsus Banned Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Nowhere Casino cash: $10017949	I'd like to know what their plan is on the OL. We need at least 1 new starter and we have no depth to speak of. Even worse, the starters we still have are all average at best or borderline suck. This will probably be one of the league's worst OL next season.
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mcaj22 MVP Join Date: Feb 2010 Casino cash: $10014454	we will actually have three new full time starters, our bookends will be their first full season starting at LT and RT and not just doing spot duty. And a new RG (please not a first round pick). The only constants are Jeff Allen and Rodney Hudson doesnt sound so hot on paper when Jeff Allen is your most tenured veteran on your oline lol
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RunKC Andy Reid Supporter Join Date: Apr 2012 Casino cash: $-1680389	Schwartz isn't getting starting money. He's getting more than that. He's going to get way more money than he's worth. Just my opinion, but I think Dorsey is very comfortable with Kush taking over and starting. He looked very good in the SD game. __________________ Mike Greenberg@Espngreeny I can’t fathom what it must be like to be a fan of the #Chiefs. Adopt a Chief: Jared Wiley
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