Royals Should we start Dyson in game 3 - Page 8

Hootie · 10-23-2014, 07:46 PM

by the way, Dyson isn't a free agent until 2018

don't know where anyone saw that he was a FA after this year

penbrook · 10-23-2014, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

by the way, Dyson isn't a free agent until 2018

don't know where anyone saw that he was a FA after this year

He's Arbritration eligible

Hootie · 10-23-2014, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

He's Arbritration eligible

and that makes him a free agent ... how?

BigCatDaddy · 10-23-2014, 08:34 PM

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Originally Posted by penbook

He's Arbritration eligible

By that definition most of the team will be FA's.

Hootie · 10-23-2014, 07:51 PM

you're wrong about that lineup

Dyson should not be hitting leadoff, ever. He's the #9 guy. Or #8 in San Fran.

This is the ****ing lineup:

Escobar
Hosmer
Cain
Moose
Perez
Gordon
Infante
Dyson
Pitcher

That is OUR best lineup tomorrow in San Fran with Dyson in the lineup.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-23-2014, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

you're wrong about that lineup

Dyson should not be hitting leadoff, ever. He's the #9 guy. Or #8 in San Fran.

This is the ****ing lineup:

Escobar
Hosmer
Cain
Moose
Perez
Gordon
Infante
Dyson
Pitcher

That is OUR best lineup tomorrow in San Fran with Dyson in the lineup.

Dyson is one of the only guys in your lineup willing to take a pitch. From the #1 spot in the lineup, that's pretty important. He's faster than Escobar and gets on base more often, even if he isn't the same pure hitter. You're better off hitting him there because he can turn a walk into a double better than Escobar, and he's less likely to drive in a run from the 8th spot in the lineup than Escobar, whose isolated power is better.

Hootie · 10-23-2014, 07:53 PM

and in all honesty, I'd be willing to bet Ned goes: (if he does indeed go with Dyson)

Escobar
Hosmer
Cain
Gordon
Perez
Moose
Infante
Dyson

Hootie · 10-23-2014, 07:56 PM

We're not going to **** with the top of our order right now. It makes no ****ing sense. Typical Cardinals fan syndrome here. You guys remember once upon a time before Matheny when ALL OF YOU hated LaRussa and thought the was the worst manager in baseball?

****ing ridiculous.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-23-2014, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

We're not going to **** with the top of our order right now. It makes no ****ing sense. Typical Cardinals fan syndrome here. You guys remember once upon a time before Matheny when ALL OF YOU hated LaRussa and thought the was the worst manager in baseball?

****ing ridiculous.

That's an awesome counterargument.

"We're not going to put our best hitters in the position to drive in the most runs because it makes no ****ing sense." Then, follow it up with a non-sequitur.

And you wonder why I talk down to you.

tk13 · 10-23-2014, 08:00 PM

I did not like the idea of making Escobar the leadoff guy. But to his credit he's done a solid job up there. I don't think it's the long term solution but I definitely wouldn't be screwing with it now, so much so I wonder if Ned's going to bat Dyson 2nd if he does start him tomorrow.

penbrook · 10-23-2014, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I did not like the idea of making Escobar the leadoff guy. But to his credit he's done a solid job up there. I don't think it's the long term solution but I definitely wouldn't be screwing with it now, so much so I wonder if Ned's going to bat Dyson 2nd if he does start him tomorrow.

Probably Infante #2 and Dyson #8

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-23-2014, 08:06 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

I did not like the idea of making Escobar the leadoff guy. But to his credit he's done a solid job up there. I don't think it's the long term solution but I definitely wouldn't be screwing with it now, so much so I wonder if Ned's going to bat Dyson 2nd if he does start him tomorrow.

You're right that Escobar's splits suggest that his performance at leadoff is not sustainable.

His batted ball profile is the exact same. His BABIP is significantly higher, but that will happen over a sample of about 100 ABs (factoring in PS), and that's a good indicator that his performance as a leadoff hitter is an outlier.

Hootie · 10-23-2014, 08:01 PM

there is no freaking way he should hit, arguably, our best power hitter who has suddenly developed a patient eye 8th in an NL park

he has to hit Dyson 8th

Hootie · 10-23-2014, 08:03 PM

there is no reason to hit Escobar / Infante ... Ever.

If Ned really wants to be more like Hootie 2.0, and he's done a great impression with the way he's handled his bullpen this postseason, here is his lineup:

(For the 5th time)

ESCOBAR
HOSMER
CAIN
MOOSE
PEREZ
GORDON
INFANTE
DYSON

With swapping Gordon/Moose being acceptable as well.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 10-23-2014, 08:37 PM

Here's a question for you all:

Say game three goes to the bottom of the tenth tied. You've used Herrera and Davis already. In the top of the 11th you'll have Hosmer and Gordon up. What do you want Yost to do?

A) Have Holland pitch the next two innings
B) Use other relievers hoping that you get the lead eventually and can then bring in Holland for a single inning
C) Have Holland pitch the 10th inning only

10-23-2014, 07:51 PM	#5
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	you're wrong about that lineup Dyson should not be hitting leadoff, ever. He's the #9 guy. Or #8 in San Fran. This is the ****ing lineup: Escobar Hosmer Cain Moose Perez Gordon Infante Dyson Pitcher That is OUR best lineup tomorrow in San Fran with Dyson in the lineup.
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10-23-2014, 07:53 PM	#7
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	and in all honesty, I'd be willing to bet Ned goes: (if he does indeed go with Dyson) Escobar Hosmer Cain Gordon Perez Moose Infante Dyson
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10-23-2014, 08:00 PM	#10
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $-1907500	I did not like the idea of making Escobar the leadoff guy. But to his credit he's done a solid job up there. I don't think it's the long term solution but I definitely wouldn't be screwing with it now, so much so I wonder if Ned's going to bat Dyson 2nd if he does start him tomorrow.
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10-23-2014, 08:01 PM	#13
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	there is no freaking way he should hit, arguably, our best power hitter who has suddenly developed a patient eye 8th in an NL park he has to hit Dyson 8th
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10-23-2014, 08:03 PM	#14
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	there is no reason to hit Escobar / Infante ... Ever. If Ned really wants to be more like Hootie 2.0, and he's done a great impression with the way he's handled his bullpen this postseason, here is his lineup: (For the 5th time) ESCOBAR HOSMER CAIN MOOSE PEREZ GORDON INFANTE DYSON With swapping Gordon/Moose being acceptable as well.
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10-23-2014, 07:46 PM	#1
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	by the way, Dyson isn't a free agent until 2018 don't know where anyone saw that he was a FA after this year
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10-23-2014, 07:56 PM	#8
Hootie Banned Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Dallas, Texas Casino cash: $10004900	We're not going to ** with the top of our order right now. It makes no ing sense. Typical Cardinals fan syndrome here. You guys remember once upon a time before Matheny when ALL OF YOU hated LaRussa and thought the was the worst manager in baseball? **ing ridiculous.
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10-23-2014, 08:37 PM	#15
'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7129572	Here's a question for you all: Say game three goes to the bottom of the tenth tied. You've used Herrera and Davis already. In the top of the 11th you'll have Hosmer and Gordon up. What do you want Yost to do? A) Have Holland pitch the next two innings B) Use other relievers hoping that you get the lead eventually and can then bring in Holland for a single inning C) Have Holland pitch the 10th inning only __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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