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Old 04-24-2015, 11:16 AM  
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Dorsey-"there are only 10-12 impact players in the draft"

@TerezPaylor: #Chiefs GM John Dorsey says there are 10-12 impact players in this draft.

Looks like a trade down is coming. Can you guess the 12 players?
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:16 AM   #106
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I'm trying to whittle a list down to 10-12 from this:

QB Winston
QB Mariota
RB Gurley
RB Gordon
WR Cooper
WR White
WR Parker
WR Strong
WR Agholor
WR Dorsett
OL Scherff
OL Peat
OL Flowers
OL Collins
OL Humphries
OL Fisher
OL Grasu
OL Cann
OL Tomlinson
OL Marpet
ED Ray*
ED Gregory
ED Dupree
ED Fowler
ED Beasley
DT Williams
DT Shelton
DT Brown
LB Kendricks
CB Waynes
CB Johnson
CB Peters

Who you crossing off as "impact" player rookie year? I'm thinking Ray is one with the injury thing..
My guess of his 12 impact players

And my next 6, considering need and fit (in order)...

CB Johnson
CB Jones
OL Peat
DT Brown
OL Flowers
WR Agholor
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:18 AM   #107
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yep, nobody else in this draft will become a star. Let's just see how everything plays out. I guarantee some of the bolded will be busts.
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:18 AM   #108
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Those who do not want DGB.......now picture him on NE, Den or Indy and hear about KC still doesn't have enough on the outside to beat those teams. Picture DGB on those teams with those QBs.....while we pick our safe CB or OL......
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Old 04-27-2015, 10:30 AM   #109
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Those who do not want DGB.......now picture him on NE, Den or Indy and hear about KC still doesn't have enough on the outside to beat those teams. Picture DGB on those teams with those QBs.....while we pick our safe CB or OL......
Don't be an idiot. We're going to draft WRs, and more than likely we'll have one and possibly even two in the first three rounds.

Just because we don't take DGB doesn't mean shit.

And who's the last good WR that New England has drafted that had any kind of substantial expectations placed on him when he was taken? Julian Edelman was drafted to play special teams, so he doesn't count. Wes Welker was a trade. So was Randy Moss.

Deion Branch? Troy Brown?
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Old 04-27-2015, 12:13 PM   #110
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Don't be an idiot. We're going to draft WRs, and more than likely we'll have one and possibly even two in the first three rounds.

Just because we don't take DGB doesn't mean shit.

And who's the last good WR that New England has drafted that had any kind of substantial expectations placed on him when he was taken? Julian Edelman was drafted to play special teams, so he doesn't count. Wes Welker was a trade. So was Randy Moss.

Deion Branch? Troy Brown?
Terry Glenn... because Parcells had to cook the dinner but didn't get to shop for groceries
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Old 04-27-2015, 12:57 PM   #111
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I've been an advocate for Agholor since early February, when he was considered a 2nd rounder but at this point, I'll be shocked if he gets past #18.

Some scouts have now said he's the second best receiver in the draft, just behind Cooper.
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Old 04-27-2015, 01:27 PM   #112
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Don't be an idiot. We're going to draft WRs, and more than likely we'll have one and possibly even two in the first three rounds.

Just because we don't take DGB doesn't mean shit.

And who's the last good WR that New England has drafted that had any kind of substantial expectations placed on him when he was taken? Julian Edelman was drafted to play special teams, so he doesn't count. Wes Welker was a trade. So was Randy Moss.

Deion Branch? Troy Brown?
I wouldn't count on it.

Last year i considered drafting a WR a must after we missed on WRs in FA.
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Old 04-27-2015, 02:02 PM   #113
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I wouldn't count on it.

Last year i considered drafting a WR a must after we missed on WRs in FA.
The Chiefs have ten draft picks. It would be unconscionable for Dorsey to avoid choosing a single WR at a position of such need.

Even a 4th rounder like Justin Hardy would likely push Frankie Hammond or even Junior Hemingway down the depth chart or off the team entirely.
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Old 04-27-2015, 02:26 PM   #114
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I've been an advocate for Agholor since early February, when he was considered a 2nd rounder but at this point, I'll be shocked if he gets past #18.

Some scouts have now said he's the second best receiver in the draft, just behind Cooper.
I haven't seen that from scouts, curious where you saw that, damn though, I bet he goes alot sooner than people think.

I have seen some talk that Perriman goes before parker.
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Old 04-27-2015, 02:53 PM   #115
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I haven't seen that from scouts, curious where you saw that, damn though, I bet he goes alot sooner than people think.

I have seen some talk that Perriman goes before parker.
There are tons of articles on the internet talking about him in the first. I can't recall the article I read yesterday about him slipping ahead of Parker but if I find it, I'll link it.

There are a ton on Twitter, including Albert Breer, who say that Agholor will go after Cooper and White and won't fall past Philly at #20.

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2...l_draft_u.html

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...t-for-patriots

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-orleans-...eric-kendricks

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/news/...round-buzz.php
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Old 04-27-2015, 02:56 PM   #116
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The Chiefs have ten draft picks. It would be unconscionable for Dorsey to avoid choosing a single WR at a position of such need.

Even a 4th rounder like Justin Hardy would likely push Frankie Hammond or even Junior Hemingway down the depth chart or off the team entirely.
This draft, like the last one, appears to have many good WR prospects. We'd better take at least one.
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I've been an advocate for Agholor since early February, when he was considered a 2nd rounder but at this point, I'll be shocked if he gets past #18.

Some scouts have now said he's the second best receiver in the draft, just behind Cooper.
I'm on board with him at 18.
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There are tons of articles on the internet talking about him in the first. I can't recall the article I read yesterday about him slipping ahead of Parker but if I find it, I'll link it.

There are a ton on Twitter, including Albert Breer, who say that Agholor will go after Cooper and White and won't fall past Philly at #20.

http://www.nj.com/eagles/index.ssf/2...l_draft_u.html

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap300...t-for-patriots

http://espn.go.com/blog/new-orleans-...eric-kendricks

http://www.fantasypros.com/nfl/news/...round-buzz.php
I've seen all the first round stuff, just that he's the 2nd best wr in the draft I hadn't
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I've seen all the first round stuff, just that he's the 2nd best wr in the draft I hadn't
I can't remember who made that comment but he wasn't high on White and felt he could bust.
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