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Old 04-30-2016, 07:47 PM  
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Chiefs press conference on Tyreek Hill

Starting a whole new thread about this because I think it's a pretty important to get the justification and story from the people who made the pick. Was posted in the original thread, but I know it's going to get lost in the still vibrant discussion.

Basically, Dorsey would normally let his scout team handle questions about the last day so he can do UDFA stuff, but he felt he needed to address the press and media about it before too many stories got carried away. So they spent basically a full 20 minutes discussing the morality of picking somebody like Hill.

http://www.chiefs.com/media-center/v...c-90e1d8adc228

For people who don't really care to listen, Dorsey and Reid basically give a single answer: "We've done our homework, so please trust us."

Props go to Terez Paylor for asking the tough and pointed questions about this. He's got some balls as a journalist that I've never seen out of the KC Star.
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Old 05-01-2016, 06:28 AM   #106
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I'm all for second chances.

Just as long as it doesn't involve earning $200,000 dollars per year along with the adoring adulation of millions of fan while paying zero debt to society for choking out and sucker punching a pregnant woman, repeatedly.
Show me the evidence that he "sucker punched" and "choked out" this woman. Her actual allegations are bad enough without you exaggerating them to try and make a point.
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Old 05-01-2016, 06:58 AM   #107
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I'm on the fence with him I believe everyone deserves a second chance but this incident is so wrong. I always said I'll trust Dorsey and Reid till they prove to me they don't deserve it. I was worried bout peters last year and that turned out great because they did their homework on him. Now they said they've done the same background check on Hill. Guess we gotta trust them on him.

Not sure if I can cheer for him though but the talent is there he's lightning quick!

I'll have to think bout it
The problem people have is the due diligence on him is that they believe he won't do this again. Not about whether he was guilty of the act.

I'm all for second chances. But after you are punished. While I agree with Reid that Michael Vick deserved a second chance, the only reason Vick got a second chance is that he went to jail and had to suffer through teams passing up on him for a year or two. They had to have everything taken away before they got a second chance.
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Old 05-01-2016, 06:59 AM   #108
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At least we know he's not gay like Michael Sam. That would have been a distraction.
That is ****ing savage. Well done.
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:04 AM   #109
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I don't watch ESPN or pay attention to any other sports GOSSIP. I don't give a shit about what any of these guys do in their personal time, good or bad. Never have.

As long as a dude can keep himself from suspension and can help the team win, that's all I've ever cared about.
A lot of people disagree.

This is not GOSSIP. Gossip would be saying "I wonder who Tyreek Hill is dating these days". This was a vicious, violent assault against his pregnant girlfriend that he ****ing admitted doing and called a "mistake".

He punched and choked his pregnant girlfiend. **** him.

I'm a huge fan of Reid and Dorsey, and I am usually willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. But this is a horrible ****ing decision. I will never root for Tyreek Hill.
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:06 AM   #110
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It's obvious some people don't give a shit about this guys character issue, they just want to "trust the process" and see some kicks returned to the house.

So it goes...
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:09 AM   #111
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Show me the evidence that he "sucker punched" and "choked out" this woman. Her actual allegations are bad enough without you exaggerating them to try and make a point.
Dude, he ****ing admitted it. Don't give us some bullshit theory about him being forced to admit something he didn't do as part of a plea bargain. If you're accused of doing something so vile and disgusting, AND YOU DIDN'T DO IT, you don't say you did do it, and call it a mistake.

This is exactly like the Rams drafting Lawrence Phillips, and then Dick Vermeil going on television to defend "the kid" and say how he deserves a second chance. He doesn't. By the way, how did that work out for Lawrence Phillips and the Rams? How did it work out Lawrence Phillips' cell mate in prison last year?

I hope this ****er blows his knee out in training camp. I don't want to see him play a down for my team.
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:10 AM   #112
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Dude, he ****ing admitted it. Don't give us some bullshit theory about him being forced to admit something he didn't do as part of a plea bargain. If you're accused of doing something so vile and disgusting, AND YOU DIDN'T DO IT, you don't say you did do it, and call it a mistake.

This is exactly like the Rams drafting Lawrence Phillips, and then Dick Vermeil going on television to defend "the kid" and say how he deserves a second chance. He doesn't.

I hope this ****er blows his knee out in training camp. I don't want to see him play a down for my team.
But...but..."to the house"?
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:15 AM   #113
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But...but..."to the house"?
No one will care when they are covered in sauce, eight natty lights in and he struts into the EZ.
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:19 AM   #114
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But...but..."to the house"?
If I'm in the stadium and he takes one to the house, I'll stand up and boo my ass off.
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If I'm in the stadium and he takes one to the house, I'll stand up and boo my ass off.
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:24 AM   #116
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You can root for Lawrence Phillips redux if you want. I won't be.

Edit: This was a response to tmax63's post that he quickly deleted. He deleted his post, but calls his post "rational thought".
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:24 AM   #117
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It's obvious some people don't give a shit about this guys character issue, they just want to "trust the process" and see some kicks returned to the house.

So it goes...
That's because it's a football forum and not a Domestic abuse forum. I don't like what he did at all, but we are talking about a kid here and not some grown ass adult. He ****ed up. People around here want to break out the pitch forks and stones. Seems like the crowds in medieval times cheering when they beheaded someone at the guillotine. You would have thought the guy murdered and raped an entire village.
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Old 05-01-2016, 07:27 AM   #118
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That's because it's a football forum and not a Domestic abuse forum. I don't like what he did at all, but we are talking about a kid here and not some grown ass adult. He ****ed up. People around here want to break out the pitch forks and stones. Seems like the crowds in medieval times cheering when they beheaded someone at the guillotine. You would have thought the guy murdered and raped an entire village.
Lil' Timmy didn't throw a rock at the neighbors house and blame it on the dog.

This is a wee bit different.

If you choose not to see it, that's on you.
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Chief fans would sit through Mighty Joe Young 2 if there was a part in it that they could do home of the Chiefs
Eh, I'm saddened to report that a great majority of NFL fans across the league have shown signs of great reerunery this draft.

Pitt fan: "Thank god Apple is gone, don't want a CB". "Thank god Alexander is gone, don't want a CB".

Gets Artie Fufkin, Polymer U.

Oh...
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