ESPN: Alex Smith's End Zone Interceptions Ruining a Good Thing for Chiefs

[kcchiefsus]

http://www.espn.com/blog/kansas-city...ing-for-chiefs

Also, Tigeruppercut is a ****.

[dls6501]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

The defense cost us the TB game. Look at the numbers. They were converting around 70% of 3rd down plays. That's almost twice the league average.

So when we are far below the league average on converting 1st downs, scoring, gaining yards (etc.), why is it never Alex and the offense's fault to you?

[Chromatic]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

Beachtribe is mad. You related to Teicher? I'm nowhere like the other scum on this board calling for personal harm on someone or making awful sexual depictions.

Go Chiefs

No offense but it really says something about your personality when a decent chunk of the board thinks they get along better with people who wish injuries on players or make sexual depictions about whatever than they can with you.

Part of me actually wants to see Alex Smith have a horrid, pants-shittingly, worst QB performance of all time just to see if that'll shut you up for a week.

[The Franchise]

Originally Posted by Chromatic

No offense but it really says something about your personality when a decent chunk of the board thinks they get along better with people who wish injuries on players or make sexual depictions about whatever than they can with you.

Part of me actually wants to see Alex Smith have a horrid, pants-shittingly, worst QB performance of all time just to see if that'll shut you up for a week.

It won't. You'll hear about:

1. The offensive line didn't give him long enough.
2. Reid's playcalling set him up for failure.
3. No running game.
4. His playmakers didn't help him out.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by dls6501

So when we are far below the league average on converting 1st downs, scoring, gaining yards (etc.), why is it never Alex and the offense's fault to you?

Have I said the offensive unit was excellent? I said they would be fine once they got Maclin back into the system. Unfortunately, our running game has taken an absolute nose dive compared to last year's standards. Smith's TD % is at its lowest since he's been a Chief, and a lot of that has to do with Maclin out and Reid's play calling. Look in the GDT, I was critical of Smith (especially mid range throws) and Reid. I was also critical of the defensive stand on the last drive. Blame goes all across the board.

Win as a team, lose a team. What I will NOT do is think like a simple minded gorilla and blame the QB for all of this team's issues.


So...you cherry-picking one comment to fit a narrative proves nothing.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by Chromatic

No offense but it really says something about your personality when a decent chunk of the board thinks they get along better with people who wish injuries on players or make sexual depictions about whatever than they can with you.

Part of me actually wants to see Alex Smith have a horrid, pants-shittingly, worst QB performance of all time just to see if that'll shut you up for a week.

20-4.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by dls6501

So when we are far below the league average on converting 1st downs, scoring, gaining yards (etc.), why is it never Alex and the offense's fault to you?

http://www.footballoutsiders.com/stats/teamoff

Offense has room for improvement but it's not as gloom and doom as you think it to be. Running was the strength of this team last year, in fact, this board was pimping Ware and crticial of Smith for "holding us back" in 2015. Funny how the narrative changes in 2016 and the offense is still top 12 in efficiency with a 10-4 team record but all people on here want to do is chase Smith out of town when he has clearly played a huge role in every single division game.

He's here to stay for at least another 13 months. Deal with it.

[JohnnyHammersticks]

People always point to Smith's record, but he was on a Super Bowl caliber team in San Francisco, and, for the most part, a pretty talented team during his time in KC. It's not like he's been putting a team like the Browns on his shoulders and leading them to respectability.

I'm a huge Chiefs fan, and as such, I really want to like Alex as a player. But I just can't. I watched a replay of the Bears/Packers game last night. Other than 2 throws (his 3rd INT was on a Hail Mary at the end of the 1st half), Matt Barkley threw the ball downfield light-years better than Smith. He also steps up in the pocket better than Smith, who seems to shit himself at the first sign of pressure.

Smith's one redeemable quality as a QB was his ability to avoid the crucial interception. If he's not at least doing that (i.e. the Tampa and Tennessee games), he just doesn't bring anything to the table that some stiff off the scrap heap couldn't bring.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

People always point to Smith's record, but he was on a Super Bowl caliber team in San Francisco, and, for the most part, a pretty talented team during his time in KC. It's not like he's been putting a team like the Browns on his shoulders and leading them to respectability.

I have not heard a single person say Smith has put the team on his back. Not one. Now is he carrying his weight as a solid game manager getting paid well under the league average at $14 million/year over the course of 5 years? I would say a vast majority of the time.

You don't get to 20-4, win a playoff game, save a season doomed at 1-5 by playing like Cassel.

[MeatRock]

Originally Posted by Sandy Cheeks

No. Not the exact same thing.

If they did they exact same thing, you would see Tiger or Bob joyously patting himself on the back when KC loses.

Can you tell me this happens?

You would see Tiger/Bob vocally praying for player injuries and team losses.

Can you tell me this happens?

Yes it is the same thing. Tigeruppercut turns every goddamn thread into an Alex Smith apologist thread. Much in the same way Clay would make every thread an Alex Smith hatred thread.

If one gets banned for derailing threads the other should as well.

[Dinny Bossa Nova]

Wouldn't it be the shits if TigerUp is actually a Claynus mult? It would be like the ending of one of those movies where characters keep ripping off rubber masks that look like other characters in the film.

Then it turns out we were all Dane McCloud all along.

Dinny

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by MeatRock

Yes it is the same thing. Tigeruppercut turns every goddamn thread into an Alex Smith apologist thread. Much in the same way Clay would make every thread an Alex Smith hatred thread.

If one gets banned for derailing threads the other should as well.

c'mon man.. you really don't process what you read. I can't believe this isn't getting through to you. Anyone else know how to make it more clear?

Clay vocally expresses joy when KC loses or struggles. He vocally prays for injuries to KC players he doesn't like.

TU does nether of these things.

Despite the extreme siding and opinions (call it trolling if you really must) of the two... THE BOLDED ALONE clearly separates them.

Any chance you understand the distinction now?

[RippedmyFlesh]

Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

I have not heard a single person say Smith has put the team on his back. Not one. Now is he carrying his weight as a solid game manager getting paid well under the league average at $14 million/year over the course of 5 years? I would say a vast majority of the time.

You don't get to 20-4, win a playoff game, save a season doomed at 1-5 by playing like Cassel.

No chief's fan thinks smith is as bad as cassel but that's not exactly a high bar.

[Sandy Vagina]

Originally Posted by Dinny Bossa Nova

Wouldn't it be the shits if TigerUp is actually a Claynus mult? It would be like the ending of one of those movies where characters keep ripping off rubber masks that look like other characters in the film.

Then it turns out we were all Dane McCloud all along.

Dinny

Or if I was actually a Chiefs fan for the last 40 years, and hated the Alex Smith acquisition from day one?

I don't know if it would "be the shits"... whatever that means.. but for some, it would be masterful brilliance. To me, it would just be a pathetic waste of time and effort.

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by RippedmyFlesh

No chief's fan thinks smith is as bad as cassel but that's not exactly a high bar.

actually i have heard the ol' Alex Smith is the worst QB in history quite a few times

many people around here have repeatedly said that he is the worst QB in the NFL right now

[Mr. Laz]

Originally Posted by JohnnyHammersticks

People always point to Smith's record, but he was on a Super Bowl caliber team in San Francisco, and, for the most part, a pretty talented team during his time in KC. It's not like he's been putting a team like the Browns on his shoulders and leading them to respectability.

I'm a huge Chiefs fan, and as such, I really want to like Alex as a player. But I just can't. I watched a replay of the Bears/Packers game last night. Other than 2 throws (his 3rd INT was on a Hail Mary at the end of the 1st half), Matt Barkley threw the ball downfield light-years better than Smith. He also steps up in the pocket better than Smith, who seems to shit himself at the first sign of pressure.

Smith's one redeemable quality as a QB was his ability to avoid the crucial interception. If he's not at least doing that (i.e. the Tampa and Tennessee games), he just doesn't bring anything to the table that some stiff off the scrap heap couldn't bring.

and yet Smith's numbers are in line with the rest of the team

Same people say our defense is dominant and super bowl worthy


offense

23rd in yards
22nd in pass yards
23rd in rush yards
15th in points (imagine they include Defense/ST pts even though they shouldn't)
8th in giveaways

Defense
27th in total net yards
19th in passing yards
28th rush yards per game

8th points given up
1st takeaways
2nd in takeaway/giveaway

Alex Smith
Yards - 25th
Yards per attempt - 19th
Rating - 19th
TD - 28th
Completion % - 8th
interceptions(lowest) - 7th (some guys haven't started all year)