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Old 03-04-2019, 04:52 PM  
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:17 PM   #106
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If he has another breakout year, with the scheme change, then you pay him. If you STILL don't think he's worth it, fine tag and trade is still on the table, except his value will be greater.

Why would you not pay a talented, PROVEN, young pass rusher that you drafted and developed?
He’d be older and you couldn’t get any value out of a deal after the tag
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:17 PM   #107
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Dude, they franchise tagged Ford. If he's not gone this year, he'll be gone next. The only way he isn't is if he signs a long term deal, which none of you guys want.

So the whole "you have to build around something" argument holds ZERO water. You can't build around somebody that won't be here.
The idea, since last season, was that you tag Ford IF he played to his potential and stayed healthy. Which he did.

No, im not against giving Ford a large contract in 2020 if he proves in 2019 that he can stay consistent.
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:18 PM   #108
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And then he costs even more......sweet.
Tag and trade him then after

You still get the production in a year you’re wanting to be aggressive and push for a super bowl
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:18 PM   #109
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Intercepting the ball and giving it back to your offense is more impactful than tackling a running back for a 3 yard gain

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yeah, that's the correct comparison. What makes you think the FS has more turnover opportunities than the SS does? Did you not watch Gronk and Edelman eat us alive? Don't you realize that those slot receiver and TE routes are in the SS's wheelhouse more often than not?
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And then he costs even more......sweet.
Talented players cost money.
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You could get Ezekiel Ansah, who is similar to Ford yet better, and his 2019 cap number would likely be HALF of what Ford's is going to be.

Try harder.
Did you just try to say Ansah is better than Ford?
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Tag and trade him then after

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The idea, since last season, was that you tag Ford IF he played to his potential and stayed healthy. Which he did.

No, im not against giving Ford a large contract in 2020 if he proves in 2019 that he can stay consistent.
You want to pay Ford $100 million next season? I sure as **** don't.
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:19 PM   #115
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If he has another breakout year, with the scheme change, then you pay him. If you STILL don't think he's worth it, fine tag and trade is still on the table, except his value will be greater.

Why would you not pay a talented, PROVEN, young pass rusher that you drafted and developed?
Then pay him now. If he's PROVEN, give him a contract and be done with it.
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Old 03-04-2019, 06:20 PM   #116
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Then pay him now. If he's PROVEN, give him a contract and be done with it.
This. If they want to give Ford a contract.....now is the time. Franchising him and then signing him is going to increase the size of the contract a shit ton because he's going to look at that franchise tag and want that per year starting out.
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yeah, that's the correct comparison. What makes you think the FS has more turnover opportunities than the SS does? Did you not watch Gronk and Edelman eat us alive? Don't you realize that those slot receiver and TE routes are in the SS's wheelhouse more often than not?
A free safety, by design and definition, spends more time reading the quarterback. You get more chances at interceptions and turnovers that way

You don’t make a lot of plays playing man in terms of taking the ball away
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The idea, since last season, was that you tag Ford IF he played to his potential and stayed healthy. Which he did.

No, im not against giving Ford a large contract in 2020 if he proves in 2019 that he can stay consistent.
He'll be almost 30 years old and you're going to load him up.
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Then pay him now. If he's PROVEN, give him a contract and be done with it.
If a team is willing to pony up the draft picks you take them and free up the $ and get the young talent.

No way you give Ford a long term deal IMO.
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You want to pay Ford $100 million next season? I sure as **** don't.
That'd depend on what he does this coming season. How much is a top 5 pass rusher worth?

Or would you just rather not have a top 5 pass rusher?

Because any good player will cost $$$.

Flowers is no more sure of a bet than Ford. The guy has never even had more than 8 sacks.

And he's in a scheme with the best defensive coaches in the NFL.

Talk about buyer beware....
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