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Old 11-05-2019, 10:44 AM  
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Only TWO games since Kareem left!!

Has a Chiefs running back rushed for a hundred yards in a game. Sunday's 145 by Damien was the first since his 103 at Seattle last season. Honestly I know Andy hates running the ball but that stat is utterly pathetic tbh. I think finally replacing Kareem's production is vital for this team moving forward so we can take the pressure off of Pat, give opposing defenses something else to worry about and also compete for time of possesion. We all saw how weak against the run the Pats were on Sunday and what a good running game can do...so I hope Veach has plans to land a quality RB In the offseason. Most teams have their number one back so the draft could be kind to us tbh with Taylor, Swift, Harris, Dobbins, Ettien etc all there to be had.
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Old 11-06-2019, 01:08 PM   #106
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How many 100 yard games has Kareem had since he left? How many would he have had if he hadn't been cut?

Hint: The answer to both questions is the same and it's less than 2.
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Old 11-06-2019, 03:38 PM   #108
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Lol oh look, it's the guy who got his panties in a twist last year on the draft forum because I insisted that we should consider drafting a quality RB . And excuse me where are these two magical rb's that can run 50 yards each per game? Because they don't appear to be on this roster. Secondly if your notion was true why do dallas, packers, saints, ravens, rams, pats etc all have one main three down back? And please don't embarrass yourself by mentioning "White" again because anyone with a brain knows all he does is catch the ball out of the backfield whilst Michel does ALL ground running.
BECAUSE OUR OLINE IS TERRIBLE.

YOU'RE A ****ING MORON.

AND EPSTEIN DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF.
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Old 11-06-2019, 05:45 PM   #109
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Lol oh look, it's the guy who got his panties in a twist last year on the draft forum because I insisted that we should consider drafting a quality RB . And excuse me where are these two magical rb's that can run 50 yards each per game? Because they don't appear to be on this roster. Secondly if your notion was true why do dallas, packers, saints, ravens, rams, pats etc all have one main three down back? And please don't embarrass yourself by mentioning "White" again because anyone with a brain knows all he does is catch the ball out of the backfield whilst Michel does ALL ground running.
Oh man.

We have 3 nice backs. Might have 4 once Darwin starts getting more snaps.

We don't have 100 yard rushers because we don't pound the rock 20+ times a game.

We wouldn't do that if we had any running back in the league. It's not what Andy Reid does, and you can like that or you can hate it, but it is what it is. The only way we have a back go for 100 is if he breaks a big one. In the Mahomes era, that's Andy Reid football.

Kareem Hunt would still not have any more 100 yard games than Williams has. Kareem Hunt had ONE last season. Williams has had TWO since then.

But by all means, ignore that facts.

you really are a stupid mother****er.
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Old 11-06-2019, 05:58 PM   #110
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Draft O line. Number one to protect 15 for the next 15 years, and two, solid o line helps rushing attack. You don't honestly believe that turd rb for the Colts is actually that good, do you?

That O line is also making Jacoby freaking Brisset look like an actual starting qb.
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Exactly. You can still get really good value at O-line drafting late in the first round. Maybe not elite but very good. It's much tougher to get even very good CBs or Edge rushers at that spot.

And with what we're going to have to pay Mahomes I think an elite LT would be a problem. Fisher was perfect. Very good but not demanding top 5 LT money.
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Oh man.

We have 3 nice backs. Might have 4 once Darwin starts getting more snaps.

We don't have 100 yard rushers because we don't pound the rock 20+ times a game.

We wouldn't do that if we had any running back in the league. It's not what Andy Reid does, and you can like that or you can hate it, but it is what it is. The only way we have a back go for 100 is if he breaks a big one. In the Mahomes era, that's Andy Reid football.

Kareem Hunt would still not have any more 100 yard games than Williams has. Kareem Hunt had ONE last season. Williams has had TWO since then.

But by all means, ignore that facts.

you really are a stupid mother****er.
This is all 100% accurate.

Especially the bolded part.
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So Damien was huge in the play offs for the Chiefs - so that means we are fine by that logic.
He was "huge" catching the ball, not really running it..hence why the Pats dominated the ball for 40 minutes with Michel doing most of the damage.


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How many super bowl rings do those guys have? How many play off appearances? Do you think the Panthers, Vikings, Giants or Cowboys offense is better than the Chiefs? If the Chiefs have a better offense, why would they try and change to emulate a worse offense?
SMH who says we have to "change"? DIDN'T WE HAVE HUNT IN THIS SAME OFFENSE? All I want to see is a quality RB who can run the ball effectively..WHY ARE YOU SO AGAINST THAT?


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Barkley is also a classic example of why you don't waste resources on a running back. Is he an incredibly talented running back? Sure. Has his performance managed to lift the Giants offense above garbage? No. Then was he worth it?
What has Mayfield, Rosen, Allen etc done exactly? Allen is aided by a defense and running game much like Lamar...Giants were spot on picking Barkley.


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This is where you don't do yourself any favours. The Steelers and Bolts ahve taken a step back this year in their run game? By what metric? Benny Snell, the 4th round pick, is averaging 4.2 yards a carry?
The same Benny Snell who is behind two other RB's? Don't even try to argue that they are the same without Bell...because that's utterly foolish imo and their record proves it since he stopped playing for them.


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And yet more un-researched non-sense, the Bolts are winning since Gordon started playing? they are 2-3 since he came back, and one of those 2 wins they had a team total of 36 rushing yards. Gordon got 31 yards on 8 attempts against the Bears. Clearly an impact player?
What was the Chargers record before he turned up? They were losing to the likes of Detriot and the Steelers and on Sunday they just blew out Green Bay...ignore the facts if you like but it won't make you right.


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But does it stink? They don't have many 100 yard games from a single back, but again as has already been pointed out this is a dumb metric. The Chiefs are choosing to pass the ball more than run, and also to share carries between backs. You're not even considering efficiency when running, which is literally the only thing that matters in my opinion.
And you're seemingly too naive to understand simple logic...we're regularly losing time of possession, our run game is one of the worst in the league and they have been fumbling the ball like crazy...and most of the best teams have backs who are balancing out their attacking by getting large chunks on the ground. IF you're against having that in favour of the unbalanced crap we have now then good luck!!..we simply won't agree.


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You sound like you would be happier if the Chiefs scored 20 points a game but had a single running back get 100+ yards, rather than have the Chiefs score 30 points but have two running backs get like 30 yards each.
And you sound like you're out of the Andy Reid school of thinking..."we don't need a good RB..just get any old scrubs off the street and we'll throw it a million times per game" SMH
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BECAUSE OUR OLINE IS TERRIBLE.

YOU'RE A ****ING MORON.

AND EPSTEIN DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF.
LOL is this crybaby still yapping?

SMH at this pathetic clown talking about a banged up O-line that has had to face some of the best defenses in the entire league!!...the same O-line Kareem flourished with.
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Oh man.

We have 3 nice backs. Might have 4 once Darwin starts getting more snaps.

We don't have 100 yard rushers because we don't pound the rock 20+ times a game.

We wouldn't do that if we had any running back in the league. It's not what Andy Reid does, and you can like that or you can hate it, but it is what it is. The only way we have a back go for 100 is if he breaks a big one. In the Mahomes era, that's Andy Reid football.

Kareem Hunt would still not have any more 100 yard games than Williams has. Kareem Hunt had ONE last season. Williams has had TWO since then.

But by all means, ignore that facts.

you really are a stupid mother****er.
SMH and just like last year this moron is still too thick to comprehend the basics.

1. WE HAD AN ELITE RB AND ANDY WAS USING HIM JUST FINE TO BALANCE OUT THE ATTACK.

2. "Three nice backs"? Er one is a Dolphins reject who has taken a step back this season, the other is an undrafted prospect who Andy doesn't trust and the third one is a washed up star who keeps fumbling the damn ball...the bottom line is OUR RB ROOM ISN'T GOOD ENOUGH, PERIOD.

3. And folks love to talk as if Hunt had somehow regressed from his rookie year WHEN THE KID HAD 4.6 YARDS PER CARRY AND WAS AT 824 YARDS IN ELEVEN GAMES BEFORE GETTING CUT!!.. So he was very likely to have better stats than his rookie year.

But really why am I even trying to convince you anyway? You've clearly got SERIOUS issues when it pertains to the value of RB's so this exchange is pretty much a waste of time. Veach enquired about Bell at the deadline and will most likely draft one...I hope you don't take it to hard when he does .
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LOL is this crybaby still yapping?

SMH at this pathetic clown talking about a banged up O-line that has had to face some of the best defenses in the entire league!!...the same O-line Kareem flourished with.
He "flourished" with Cam Erving, Austin Reiter, Andrew Wylie, and Martinas Rankin?

Must have missed that.
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