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Old 02-05-2025, 11:14 AM  
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Tush Push

Ok, lot of great minds out there so lets have at it. How do the Chiefs stop the tush push. My thinking is to line 2 interior linemen on each side of the center. Right behind them with a slight angle to the center are 2 more big body linemen. All eyes are watching the ball. As soon as it starts moving, the 2 columns push forward. The behind linemen pushing the forward linemen. The ends seal the edge while line backers, corners and safeties watch for a pass.
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Old 05-20-2025, 01:11 PM   #106
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Wrong. It's illegal.
Are you relying on Reddit, ChatGPT, the NFL Rulebook, or something else?

I chose to look at the NFL Rulebook, specifically, I referred to Rules 9 and 12, for any potential additional guidance, and Rule 19 Penalty Summary.

Rule 9 Article 3 Items 1 and 2 talk about pushing another player into the formation on a scrimmage kick

Rule 12 Section 3 Article 1 is very detailed on other actions, such as using a teammate to gain height (leverage)

Nowhere does it actually appear in the NFL Rulebook.
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Old 05-20-2025, 01:19 PM   #107
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I think it should just go back to being an unassisted runner. There’s no fair way to call forward progress as many have said allowing the offense several opportunities. When a half yard direct snap run play doesn’t have the whistle called for 8+ seconds something is funny.
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Old 05-21-2025, 09:22 AM   #108
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I have more of an issue with their linemen diving at defensive players knees than the actual pushing of the runner. If they keep doing that, it doesn't matter if someone is behind and pushing him, they'll still get a bunch of yards on a normal sneak and it can **** up defender's knees.
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Old 05-21-2025, 09:55 AM   #109
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Old 05-21-2025, 09:56 AM   #110
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Final vote was 22-10. Needed 75% so it didn't pass. The Tush Push lives.
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Old 05-21-2025, 09:56 AM   #111
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ESPN alert said the vote was 22-10.
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Old 05-21-2025, 10:06 AM   #112
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I never understood why they don't just go back to banning pushing a runner like the old rule.
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Old 05-21-2025, 10:20 AM   #113
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Another season when the Bills can keep trying and failing to use the play with Josh Allen.
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Old 05-21-2025, 10:22 AM   #114
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I have more of an issue with their linemen diving at defensive players knees than the actual pushing of the runner. If they keep doing that, it doesn't matter if someone is behind and pushing him, they'll still get a bunch of yards on a normal sneak and it can **** up defender's knees.
Counter that by instructing the DL to dive at the knees of the OL. Forget stopping the ball, a few ruptured knee ligaments for starting offensive linemen will make using the Tush Push less appealing.
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Old 05-21-2025, 10:22 AM   #115
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They need 2 more votes for next year. Goodell will find a way to get it banned. He always wins.
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Old 05-21-2025, 11:07 AM   #116
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Counter that by instructing the DL to dive at the knees of the OL. Forget stopping the ball, a few ruptured knee ligaments for starting offensive linemen will make using the Tush Push less appealing.

Start blitzing a DB off the edge and having him dive into the pile at the QB’s knees to chop
him down.

Will end appeal of the play the first time a QB or up back breaks a leg because they’re at the edge of the scrum and exposed to
Someone coming in from the side to blow up the scrum.
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Old 05-21-2025, 11:08 AM   #117
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And for the Chiefs, run a tush push with Gray as the QB, that feature the option to pitch the ball to Mahomes rolling out to one side of the formation and looking to hit a big play.

Shoot, even run a good old fashioned speed option off of it.
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Old 05-21-2025, 11:10 AM   #118
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Why would you NOT want this banned unless you are the Eagles? So bad for the game.
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Another season when the Bills can keep trying and failing to use the play with Josh Allen.
If Buffalo loses a Super Bowl to the Eagles, that will be the moment when the Tush Push finally gets banned.
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Why would you NOT want this banned unless you are the Eagles? So bad for the game.
Why would you want it banned? If it's so unfair and such an advantage, other teams should do it. And if that renders 3rd and 4th and shorts obsolete, then it can be banned. But 1 team running a successful play? Makes no sense to ban it. It's like if they would have banned the wildcat after Miami's 2008 season just because they were so dominant with it.
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