***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by mdchiefsfan

PA has closed all liquor stores. I’ll be curious to see the sociological reaction to such a decision.

*grabs beer just purchased and takes a hearty sip*

PA has always had a puritan view of alcohol. When I lived there in the late 80's the liquor stores were all run by the state. In some of them, you had to look up what you wanted in a book and tell the clerk the number, then they would go into the back and bring it out.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by eDave

When dipshittery gets too high. Other than the day everyone flocked to the trails, we've kept dipshittery at bay it seems.

Not true at all. Dipshits still hanging out. Dipshits still going to the park.

It’s about to blowup here with the population we have in Phoenix metro. More populated areas should be sheltering in place first, but even sparsely populated Montana beat our dumb asses.

[Monticore]

[QUOTE=mdchiefsfan;14870386]Damn... hadn’t thought of that. May want to stock up on listerine. [/QUOTE

I am not a big drinker but few more weeks of this I may become one.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by cdcox

PA has always had a puritan view of alcohol. When I lived there in the late 80's the liquor stores were all run by the state. In some of them, you had to look up what you wanted in a book and tell the clerk the number, then they would go into the back and bring it out.

That might be why up here as well all government run.

[mdchiefsfan]

Originally Posted by cdcox

PA has always had a puritan view of alcohol. When I lived there in the late 80's the liquor stores were all run by the state. In some of them, you had to look up what you wanted in a book and tell the clerk the number, then they would go into the back and bring it out.

I was raised in VA, and they had things fairly strict with ABC stores (state-run). At least beer was available in grocery stores and c-stores.

My mind was blown when my service led me to Monterey, CA and I saw it all in grocery stores.

[Bwana]

Originally Posted by wazu

KC is same.

I just hope this thing clears out by summer, or the bears will be pestering the locals.

[lewdog]

Originally Posted by cdcox

We should be doing that everywhere now (hammer phase). For every confirmed case there are approximately 9 additional cases that have not been confirmed. So there are likely something like 5000 cases in AZ now, that will continue to grow according to a power law until shelter in place type restrictions are in place. The sooner we put it in place the quicker we might be able to open portions of the economy.

This. Should have happened in AZ on Tuesday night.

You ****s clamoring for the economy want this drug out 4-6 months? That’s what will happen when 5 million people live in one city.

[KCUnited]

Chicago has shutdown the lakefront parks and beaches and the commuter trail in front of my place indefinitely. Sun came out yesterday and there were bros out playing 3 on 3 basketball, soccer games, all kinds of dipshittery.

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by cdcox

We should be doing that everywhere now (hammer phase). For every confirmed case there are approximately 9 additional cases that have not been confirmed. So there are likely something like 5000 cases in AZ now, that will continue to grow according to a power law until shelter in place type restrictions are in place. The sooner we put it in place the quicker we might be able to open portions of the economy.

Where does that information come from?

[displacedinMN]

Originally Posted by Monticore

Ontario is deeming the Booz stores as essential which I thought was weird.

Minnesota did and it is....

[Bearcat]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Where does that information come from?

70-80% of people show minimal to no symptoms and/or aren't tested.

[cdcox]

Originally Posted by Chief Roundup

Where does that information come from?

Many have reported similar numbers.

Here is an estimate from a panel of experts:

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features...still-unclear/

[carlos3652]

New Jersey and Michigan are next to pop off in the death toll... They are starting to get hit hard with cases.

[Why Not?]

Originally Posted by lewdog

This. Should have happened in AZ on Tuesday night.

You ****s clamoring for the economy want this drug out 4-6 months? That’s what will happen when 5 million people live in one city.

The issue I see is that AZ is so chalk full of “you carnt take mer rights or mer gerns!” Yokels(and I believe in rights and guns but not to the AZ Yokel point)that I don’t think they’d listen to a shelter in place anyway. I think we’re going to have to rely on a combo of folks like us, some medical progress, and is the heat still a thing people are optimistic about?

[Chief Roundup]

Originally Posted by carlos3652

New Jersey and Michigan are next to pop off in the death toll... They are starting to get hit hard with cases.

Surely Louisiana and Florida as well.