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Old 04-23-2021, 01:00 PM  
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Old 04-26-2021, 01:59 PM   #1201
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These PFF guys. These PFF guys.

No. Just no.

The mindset they take is the same as Chris Ballard rolls out in Indy. It's what the Packers have been doing Aaron Rodgers whole career.

How has that worked out for them?

The Chiefs are in their window, now (and will be the entire time Mahomes is their QB). That means you're aggressive every year. If they can handle the LT position for the next decade by trading a 1st round pick, it makes perfect sense to do so. Even if you then pay the guy. OK, you lose 3 cheap years over taking someone like Spencer Brown or Walker Little or whatever.

But what happens... if that tackle you take at 31 is a bust?

Not all 1st round picks are equal. They really struggle with that concept.
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Old 04-26-2021, 02:02 PM   #1202
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Old 04-26-2021, 02:11 PM   #1203
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I still love Eric Fisher and wish him the best but even without the injury this is an upgrade over a healthy Eric Fisher.
I’ll second that emotion.
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Old 04-26-2021, 02:16 PM   #1204
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PFF and Eric Eager double down on their asinine take of the situation.


What an embarrassment. I hope someone sends that back to them next February when Orlando Brown is on the Super Bowl stage hoisting the Lombardi trophy in his Chiefs’ jersey.
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Old 04-26-2021, 02:16 PM   #1205
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In all seriousness they listed OBJ so low because they feel that Lamar Jackson was a integral part of it because he's so elusive.

Two things: Pat is elusive as well.

OBJ is 24 and going to get better
Veach and his pro personnel guys all watched Brown play last year. I think just about everybody on planet earth would take their player analysis over the doofuses at PFF.
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Old 04-26-2021, 02:23 PM   #1206
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LOL @ PFF dudes.

They are arguing philosophy vs reality.

The Chiefs have an opportunity to win a championship, but were without a starting LT due to injury. So they are a supposed to write off a chance at a championship run so they can still build through the draft? That's insane. And OBJ only cost 3.3M next year. I mean come on no. Its a win for the Chiefs in the short term, and if they found a long term solution to the position moving forward that's a win too.
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Old 04-26-2021, 02:45 PM   #1207
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What an embarrassment. I hope someone sends that back to them next February when Orlando Brown is on the Super Bowl stage hoisting the Lombardi trophy in his Chiefs’ jersey.
that is the most insanely stupid take I think I've ever heard.

Clark hasn't produced to his contract, but you absolutely cannot argue that we win SB 54 without him; and that he was a HUGE part of the defensive culture change that happened in that season.

It wasn't a dumb move; it may have not quite worked out how we expected, but it was a risk worth taking.

And these ****ing guys want us to draft a LT at #31 to protect Mahomes as a rookie when we're SB favorites? That's somehow smarter than taking a two time pro bowler who is 24 ****ing years old? Because we'll have to pay him eventually? STUPID.

****ing stupid. **** these numbnuts.
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Old 04-26-2021, 02:46 PM   #1208
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Old 04-26-2021, 02:51 PM   #1209
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The Chiefs have the leverage, too. They could franchise him twice. Of course they won't but that fact gives them leverage in contract negotiations.

It's also nice that the best case scenario for everyone, the fans, the front office, the team, the player, the family, the agent is that OBJ is a probowl left tackle and gets a huge contract from the Chiefs and protects Mahomes for the next ten years.
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The Chiefs were never going to sit at 31 and wait. Thats not Veach or Andy's style.

With that in mind, this was an easy deal to make.
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LOL @ PFF dudes.

They are arguing philosophy vs reality.

The Chiefs have an opportunity to win a championship, but were without a starting LT due to injury. So they are a supposed to write off a chance at a championship run so they can still build through the draft? That's insane. And OBJ only cost 3.3M next year. I mean come on no. Its a win for the Chiefs in the short term, and if they found a long term solution to the position moving forward that's a win too.
Exactly.

The goal isn't to maximize every cent of value out of your roster and salary cap. It's to maximize your ability to hit your ceiling as a team and win at the highest level.

It would be one thing if Fisher was healthy and the Chiefs weren't facing a gaping hole at LT. Then, drafting a developmental guy who CAN be your LT of the future makes total sense. (See: Niang and Schwartz). But once Fisher was lost for the year, the whole thing changes.
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Chiefs let go of Fisher and Schwartz: "Guess Mahomes will be running for his life next season LOLOLOLOL"

Chiefs trade for OBJ and patch the Oline: "Another blunder by the Chiefs. Why pay for a Pro Bowl LT to protect Mahomes when you can build depth?"

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The Chiefs were never going to sit at 31 and wait. Thats not Veach or Andy's style.

With that in mind, this was an easy deal to make.
They liked Teven Jenkins but he is not going to be there and it would be more expensive to get him
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Its pretty surprising that they didn't sign an extension as part of the trade. The last team to do that was Houston and they aren't exactly a model franchise. Could end up costing KC a few extra dollars.
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