***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

I highly doubt he said that, but if he did he is flat out wrong. Hell, most experts agree that only 15-20% of all people infected even notice much more than mild cold symptoms.

It’s my understanding that “mild” means not hospitalized. You can get pneumonia and be considered “mild.”

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

It’s my understanding that “mild” means not hospitalized. You can get pneumonia and be considered “mild.”

And I’m wrong according to WebMD...

https://www.webmd.com/lung/news/2020...cases-recovery

I’ve seen the opposite in other places but hope this is the case. If hospitalizations are closer to 5% rather than 20% then that would be great.

[Fish]

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

OMG, we r all gonna dieeeeee. Lol

Hey, dummy. Remember the nonsense you said earlier in this thread?

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

If I have to cough or sneeze I try to hold it until I can stand right next to one of those people wearing a mask and then I really let it fly.

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Like coughing on masked Chinese people at Costco trying to cut you off with their basket full of TP. It's like parting the sea.

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

Trusted sources like the CDC and WHO, lol OK

Originally Posted by BIG_DADDY

It's man made and came out of a lab.

[SuperBowl4]

Originally Posted by DaFace

Anyone heard from OTWP today?

Does "OTWP" have anything to do with the $1.2 BILLION U.S.Space Force Military Communication Satellite Launch? "Nothing Stops The Space Launch Mission" - tweeted a 45th Space Winger

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by SuperBowl4

Does "OTWP" have anything to do with the $1.2 BILLION U.S.Space Force Military Communication Satellite Launch? "Nothing Stops The Space Launch Mission" - tweeted a 45th Space Winger

You really are in your own little world, aren't you? It's cute.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Nirvana58

Exactly. These numbers for Kansas might as well be made up. Try getting tested without being bad enough to be hospitalized. Who knows what the actual number of infected is.

Kansas has tested over 3x as many people as Missouri....

https://covidtracking.com/data/#MO

Both KS and MO recorded their first case on March 8th.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

You really are in your own little world, aren't you? It's cute.

It's like he doesn't realize that I have 15 years of experience in ignoring people who want a reaction on here.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by AustinChief

That could easily be explained by a lack of testing everyone in Kansas except KC Metro. I can't stress enough how meaningless these numbers truly are.

KS has tested 3x as many people as MO.

KS: Total tests= 3,037: 168 positive/2,869 negative

MO: Total tests= 871: 502 positive/369 negative

Edit: Link to the data--https://covidtracking.com/data/#MO

[Nickhead]

I was pondering today. Given all the bushfires we had thru the summer, did that tamp down a mass infection here in Australia? I would think with the dramatic drop of chinese 'tourists' during the fires helped mitigate a NYC type scenario in Sydney, to this point?

[Bugeater]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's like he doesn't realize that I have 15 years of experience in ignoring people who want a reaction on here.

I don't think the anticipation of a reaction was why that was posted.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by Nickhead

I was pondering today. Given all the bushfires we had thru the summer, did that tamp down a mass infection here in Australia? I would think with the dramatic drop of chinese 'tourists' during the fires helped mitigate a NYC type scenario in Sydney, to this point?

Interesting take. You certainly found the silver lining.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by Bugeater

I don't think the anticipation of a reaction was why that was posted.

Na, he's cranky that I booted him from the SpaceX thread for being obnoxious.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Fat Elvis

KS has tested 3x as many people as MO.

KS: Total tests= 3,037: 168 positive/2,869 negative

MO: Total tests= 871: 502 positive/369 negative

Edit: Link to the data--https://covidtracking.com/data/#MO

Damn thats ****ed that MO has more peopled testing positive than not

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Damn thats ****ed that MO has more peopled testing positive than not

Probably just means they are holding back on tests except for people who are really, really sick.

[Fat Elvis]

Originally Posted by Titty Meat

Damn thats ****ed that MO has more peopled testing positive than not

There is a possibility that they aren't including commercial labs; that would be the only explanation I could imagine....