***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I linked earlier to the WHO saying it's perfectly fine to take.

Don't believe unsourced internet rumors.

The WHO also said there was no patient to patient transmission.

Based on the WIRED article, you're on the safest side not taking it.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DaFace

It's obviously not a huge deal, but ibuprofen IS a very good anti-inflammatory, so people might be avoiding a helpful drug unnecessarily. But if you're worried about it, you do you.

https://www.wired.com/story/the-ibup...vid-19-rumors/

In the swirl of panic over Covid-19, some national health authorities supported the French advice, and others pushed back against it. At the end of last week, both the European Medicines Agency (the European Union’s equivalent of the FDA) and the World Health Organization tried to tamp down the furor. They both weighed in to say there is no reason to stop using ibuprofen to home-treat fever from Covid-19.

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There is absolute NO REASON to avoid Ibuprofen.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The WHO also said there was no patient to patient transmission.

Based on the WIRED article, you're on the safest side not taking it.

Do you mean THIS Wired article?

https://www.wired.com/story/the-ibup...vid-19-rumors/

In the swirl of panic over Covid-19, some national health authorities supported the French advice, and others pushed back against it. At the end of last week, both the European Medicines Agency (the European Union’s equivalent of the FDA) and the World Health Organization tried to tamp down the furor.

They both weighed in to say there is no reason to stop using ibuprofen to home-treat fever from Covid-19.

[Hammock Parties]

Thank the baby jesus we have threads like this for morons like me.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Thank the baby jesus we have threads like this for morons like me.

well it would be MUCH nicer if the morons like you would just shut the **** up and READ the thread instead of posting in it

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

The WHO also said there was no patient to patient transmission.

Based on the WIRED article, you're on the safest side not taking it.

In mid-January, yes. What evidence do you have that there was, and they knew about it?

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

In mid-January, yes. What evidence do you have that there was, and they knew about it?

I'm good bro, thanks.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

I'm good bro, thanks.

Right. There isn't any. Just another example of you being a dick for posting false information.

[Hammock Parties]

Originally Posted by Donger

Right. There isn't any. Just another example of you being a dick.

Let's not.

[Donger]

Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Let's not.

Happy to. Stop doing it.

[2112]

I just went food shopping. What I observed: people were touching everything. Squeezing every bag of bread, picking things up, looking at them and putting it back. The kicker: guy standing by the cart area in the parking lot had gloves and a mask on and was smoking a cigarette. I just had to shake my head and get the hell outta dodge. ****ing morons everywhere

[ToxSocks]

Originally Posted by D2112

I just went food shopping. What I observed: people were touching everything. Squeezing every bag of bread, picking things up, looking at them and putting it back. The kicker: guy standing by the cart area in the parking lot had gloves and a mask on and was smoking a cigarette. I just had to shake my head and get the hell outta dodge. ****ing morons everywhere

was it well stocked though?

[RollChiefsRoll]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

was it well stocked though?

That’s the key. When I went three days ago, there was no bread or meat worth a shit. Only gluten free cardboard, chitlins, and hog asses.

[2112]

Originally Posted by Detoxing

was it well stocked though?

They’re trying to keep up with stocking shelves. Only one case of water allowed per person. I pick up my meat at restaurant depot, so I have no idea how much meat they had. But they had bread, oat meal..canned goods were mostly gone. They had plenty of produce

[Donger]

Originally Posted by RollChiefsRoll

That’s the key. When I went three days ago, there was no bread or meat worth a shit. Only gluten free cardboard, chitlins, and hog asses.

That's disconcerting. It's been, what, three weeks since the panic-buying began?