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Old 01-20-2015, 10:38 PM  
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Pats Cheating Comfirmed

According to the report, the league sources say the NFL determined 11 of the 12 footballs used by the Patriots were under-inflated by two pounds per square inch each. Per NFL rules, footballs are required to be inflated between 12.5 and 13.5 PSI and weigh between 14 and 15 ounces.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2015/1/2...bill-belichick

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Old 01-23-2015, 10:19 PM   #1246
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Who knows what manner of cheating the Patriots are cooking up now while everybody is talking about the air in the balls?
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Old 01-23-2015, 10:28 PM   #1247
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Who knows what manner of cheating the Patriots are cooking up now while everybody is talking about the air in the balls?
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Old 01-23-2015, 10:29 PM   #1248
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Old 01-23-2015, 10:32 PM   #1249
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The Aaron Hernandez trial starts next week. Now the focus can shift from Patriots who break the rules to Patriots who commit murder.
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Old 01-23-2015, 11:45 PM   #1250
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where's the proof about the vaseline? Also, the Broncos technically did not break any salary cap rules. They asked Elway to defer some of his salary to a later date because Bowlen was building a new stadium. The Broncos got absolutely no on-the-field advantage by doing this.
Yeah and Bellicheat will tell you the Pats didn't break any rules with deflated footballs.

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Old 01-24-2015, 02:41 AM   #1251
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Advanced Football Analytics backs up the conclusions of statistical analysis of Sharp Football Analysis of the Patriots Incredible Ball Security.

http://www.advancedfootballanalytics...t-ball-securit



Excerpt from The Wall Street Journal:

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New England coach Bill Belichick and quarterback Tom Brady both denied ever purposely using footballs that were inflated below the NFL minimum. But on the basis of the allegations, the Count looked at the fumble rate of the Patriots compared with the rest of the league.
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Additionally, according to Stats, LLC, the six players who have played extensively for the Patriots and other teams in this span all fumbled far less frequently wearing the New England uniform. Including recovered fumbles, Danny Amendola, BenJarvus Green-Ellis, Danny Woodhead, Wes Welker, Brandon LaFell and LeGarrette Blount have lost the ball eight times in 1,482 touches for the Patriots since 2010, or once every 185.3 times. For their other teams, they fumbled 22 times in 1,701 touches (once every 77.3).

The Patriots didn’t return a request for comment.


http://www.wsj.com/articles/patriots...all-1422054846

Soon to follow: Investigative journalists have turned their attention to sports.
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Old 01-24-2015, 02:50 AM   #1252
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Why do people jump into a thread with over 1,000 posts and ask questions that have literally been asked and answered dozens of times already?

You're not the only one to do this, Pawnmower. Several others have done the same thing. But JFC, the questions you asked have been asked and answered ad nauseum in this thread, on every sports talk radio station, and all day long for the last couple of days on ESPN and other networks.
I honestly haven't seen this answered

Has Walt Anderson come out and said he personally checked the balls and secured them as per the rules 2hours before game time

I haven't seen this confirmed

So, if this has been answered please tell me.....why do you spend 2 paragraphs and not answer it

You being a dick on purpose?

I really am asking....I've googled...I must've missed this the thousands of times its been posted

If you were not an asshole maybe you could simplyy answer and point me to a link , confirming...

But I'm guessing that won't happen
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Old 01-24-2015, 03:02 AM   #1253
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I honestly haven't seen this answered

Has Walt Anderson come out and said he personally checked the balls and secured them as per the rules 2hours before game time

I haven't seen this confirmed

So, if this has been answered please tell me.....why do you spend 2 paragraphs and not answer it

You being a dick on purpose?

I really am asking....I've googled...I must've missed this the thousands of times its been posted

If you were not an asshole maybe you could simplyy answer and point me to a link , confirming...

But I'm guessing that won't happen
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What is your question? Perhaps, I can help.

Promise to answer in English ...

who was that guy -"translate"
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Old 01-24-2015, 03:10 AM   #1254
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Mitchell Report (major bombshell report on MLB steroids investigation) conducted by a Red Sox exec where no star on the World Series team was implicated.

NFL commissioner is best friends with Patriots owner leading to bizarre destruction of Spygate evidence and so far, radio silence on a very public scandal prior to the biggest game of the year. Which is interesting, since the MLB had no problem breaking the news of Paul Byrd's HGH use right before a crucial game 7 playoff start where the Red Sox beat the Indians.
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Old 01-24-2015, 06:46 AM   #1256
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Ok serious question:

is the OP's title correct?

is it REALLY confirmed that the pats cheated?

I am not following this story that closely

I understand the balls pressure were low but has it been confirmed 100% this was some intentional cheating? did the refs actually 100% say they checked the balls before kickoff?

(I noticed they checked the balls AT half time....but did they check them before the game and the pressure was fine?)
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Why do people jump into a thread with over 1,000 posts and ask questions that have literally been asked and answered dozens of times already?

You're not the only one to do this, Pawnmower. Several others have done the same thing. But JFC, the questions you asked have been asked and answered ad nauseum in this thread, on every sports talk radio station, and all day long for the last couple of days on ESPN and other networks.
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I honestly haven't seen this answered

Has Walt Anderson come out and said he personally checked the balls and secured them as per the rules 2hours before game time

I haven't seen this confirmed

So, if this has been answered please tell me.....why do you spend 2 paragraphs and not answer it

You being a dick on purpose?

I really am asking....I've googled...I must've missed this the thousands of times its been posted

If you were not an asshole maybe you could simplyy answer and point me to a link , confirming...

But I'm guessing that won't happen
I wasn't being a dick. I was just a little frustrated at seeing the same questions asked over and over by you and others after they had already been answered dozens of times in this thread. You said yourself that you had not been following the story that closely. You could have answered your own questions within 30 seconds by Googling it or just by reading the last few pages of the the thread.

To answer your original questions: It hasn't been confirmed beyond all doubt that the Patriots cheated, but it sure as hell looks that way, despite the constant denials and excuses made by several Patriot fans in this thread. The balls for both teams were weighed two and a half hours before the game, and they were weighed again at halftime after the Colts tipped off the refs. 11 out of 12 of the Patriots footballs were deflated. None of the balls used by the Colts were. Each team uses their own footballs, which is why the Patriots could benefit from modifying the footballs and the Colts wouldn't.

I'm not going to provide a link for you. You can Google it yourself. This is all over the Internet and all over every sports talk show there is. If you can't find the answer within 30 seconds, there's not a lot I can do for you. If that makes me a dick, so be it.
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The Aaron Hernandez trial starts next week. Now the focus can shift from Patriots who break the rules to Patriots who commit murder.
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Old 01-24-2015, 11:36 AM   #1258
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You're not the only one to do this, Pawnmower. Several others have done the same thing. But JFC, the questions you asked have been asked and answered ad nauseum in this thread, on every sports talk radio station, and all day long for the last couple of days on ESPN and other networks.
What's the question?

Change your tampon please. Not that it'll help, but it might allow to tell you when your mood might get better.
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