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Old 04-23-2021, 01:00 PM  
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Old 04-26-2021, 08:18 PM   #1246
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I was never sold on Trent- I think he played the Chiefs so the 49ers would cough up that ridiculous contract. His strategy worked and we end up winning even more.
While this move may work out better in the long terms for the Chiefs, there is absolutely NO DOUBT that the Chiefs wanted Trent Williams AND their full compliment of picks in 2021.
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Old 04-26-2021, 08:32 PM   #1248
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Old 04-26-2021, 08:59 PM   #1250
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I was never sold on Trent- I think he played the Chiefs so the 49ers would cough up that ridiculous contract. His strategy worked and we end up winning even more.
Williams will be 33 in July. Brown will be 25 in May. Chiefs get their first year with Brown on a rookie contract. Brown hasn't missed a game in his first 3 seasons, 48 games played (100%). Williams hasn't played a full season since 2013. Last 3 seasons, only 37 games played (77%). Brown had 11 penalties in the last 3 years. Williams had 19 in the same period. Also note, Veach has said that the Chiefs probably would not have been able to sign Jarran Reed if they had landed Williams.

No games have been played yet, but I suspect that Williams going back to the 49ers may have been the best thing for the Chiefs. So the Chiefs dropped from the 31st pick to the 58th pick. (And swapped some late round picks. The '22 picks might be better than some expect if the Ravens have a crappy '21.) Overall, small price to pay when looking at the big picture. Chiefs won the trade in my eyes. Can't wait to see the new o-line in action. Will be betting the over on every Chiefs game.
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No games have been played yet, but I suspect that Williams going back to the 49ers may have been the best thing for the Chiefs.
Based on what, exactly?

The Chiefs didn't exactly acquire OBJ for free. They had to give up their first round pick along with their 3rd and 4th this year and their 5th next year. It won't be long until they're on the hook for at least $20 million per, if not more like $24 million per, for OBJ.

Had Willilams signed a 3 year deal, the Chiefs would have had their full compliment of picks to go along with the best left tackle in the game.

While I'm certainly happy to have such a great consolation prize in OBJ, the Chiefs could have filled far more positions with competent players than the one they filled with the trade, while giving up three additional picks.

Yeah, yeah, they got a 2 and 6 but if Williams was their starting left tackle, they'd have had a 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5 and 6th this year, along with their 5th next year.
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Yeah, best-case outlook at that point would have been that he was their swing tackle in 2019, 2020, and 2021 (or a G). With the investments they already had at T and G, it would have been an extreme luxury pick.
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Jesus, I was thinking OBJ but thought Orlando Jones in my head so I typed Jones.

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Williams will be 33 in July. Brown will be 25 in May. Chiefs get their first year with Brown on a rookie contract. Brown hasn't missed a game in his first 3 seasons, 48 games played (100%). Williams hasn't played a full season since 2013. Last 3 seasons, only 37 games played (77%). Brown had 11 penalties in the last 3 years. Williams had 19 in the same period. Also note, Veach has said that the Chiefs probably would not have been able to sign Jarran Reed if they had landed Williams.

No games have been played yet, but I suspect that Williams going back to the 49ers may have been the best thing for the Chiefs. So the Chiefs dropped from the 31st pick to the 58th pick. (And swapped some late round picks. The '22 picks might be better than some expect if the Ravens have a crappy '21.) Overall, small price to pay when looking at the big picture. Chiefs won the trade in my eyes. Can't wait to see the new o-line in action. Will be betting the over on every Chiefs game.
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Based on what, exactly?

The Chiefs didn't exactly acquire Jones for free. They had to give up their first round pick along with their 3rd and 4th this year and their 5th next year. It won't be long until they're on the hook for at least $20 million per, if not more like $24 million per, for Jones.

Had Willilams signed a 3 year deal, the Chiefs would have had their full compliment of picks to go along with the best left tackle in the game.

While I'm certainly happy to have such a great consolation prize in OBJ, the Chiefs could have filled far more positions with competent players than the one they filled with the trade, while giving up three additional picks.

Yeah, yeah, they got a 2 and 6 but if Williams was their starting left tackle, they'd have had a 1, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 5 and 6th this year, along with their 5th next year.
Not sure who this Jones is that you speak of. Guessing you meant Brown. I like the 2 ,2 , 4, 5, 5. 6 AND Brown along with all the other perks in my original post. Better than the prospect of a long term deal with an oft-injured 33 year old tackle protecting PM's blindside. As I mentioned before, Williams hasn't completed a full regular season since 2013. And the other options at LT all seem to pale in comparison to Brown. Can't remember the last time a 3rd and 4th pick were the deciding factors in a winning season, let alone a SB win. Chiefs will be just fine with their current roster and draft picks.
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