***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[Frazod]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

51 Doctors have died from working with the coronavirus victims.

I hope we, the people, do something nationally like other countries to recognize the health care workers who are on the front lines of fighting this virus. Some have already given their life’s.

One of my best friends, the mother of my Goddaughter, is a RN working at a nursing home. She's working 10-14 hour days six days a week. So far two people have come down with it on her staff, but no patients. So far. Every other day assclowns from the government come in and tell them to change procedures.

I talked to her earlier this evening. She's about ready to snap.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

If you want a cure it may be here. I bought some Berberine as well as Olive leaf extract but the St. Johns wart intereferes with high blood pressure.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

If you want a cure it may be here. I bought some Berberine as well as Olive leaf extract but the St. Johns wart intereferes with high blood pressure.

Berberine is known to lower testosterone levels.

[Pablo]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Pneumonia seeming to hit around day 8 on average.

Ugh. I've had pneumonia before so I suppose I'm higher risk for this shit, but for anyone still calling it a flu; it's an awful experience. Just no fun not being able to breathe or move or do anything but suck air like a fish outta water.

[Halfcan]

Got more bad news today. One of my best buds is on a ventilator right now. Both he and his wife caught the virus. Very worried right now.

[SupDock]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Got more bad news today. One of my best buds is on a ventilator right now. Both he and his wife caught the virus. Very worried right now.

Shit. Truly sorry to hear that

[eDave]

How often are flu patients put on ventilators?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Got more bad news today. One of my best buds is on a ventilator right now. Both he and his wife caught the virus. Very worried right now.

Sorry to hear.

[Hog's Gone Fishin]

Originally Posted by penguinz

Berberine is known to lower testosterone levels.

If it kills Coronas ,who cares?

[BigRedChief]

Originally Posted by eDave

How often are flu patients put on ventilators?

<.01 when I was working. Almost always, i can’t remember taking care of one that didn’t have an underlying condition like COPD.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by eDave

How often are flu patients put on ventilators?

I have no idea about all this medical stuff. I only have a few details at this point. His oxygen level was low and couldn't breathe. His wife was released back home under quarantine.

[penguinz]

Originally Posted by Hog's Gone Fishin

If it kills Coronas ,who cares?

Use oregano oil. It is supposed to be anti-viral.

[Halfcan]

Originally Posted by BigRedChief

Sorry to hear.

It is pretty shocking news. He travels a lot for work, but I don't know how he got it. Scary shit for sure.

[Monticore]

Originally Posted by Halfcan

Got more bad news today. One of my best buds is on a ventilator right now. Both he and his wife caught the virus. Very worried right now.

Sorry the hear man that sucks.

[RINGLEADER]

Originally Posted by lewdog

Pneumonia seeming to hit around day 8 on average.

Been trying to amass data from all over and the typical patient enters the ICU/death stage at closer to 10 days but it’s hard say definitively because some (most older/pre-existing) types have a shorter incubation from infection to critical/death. Morbid, but the upside is that the rates I used earlier are a bit lower (and again this is just based on active reported cases). The projections I made for Wednesday ended up coming to fruition today. That means we’ll be getting into the 1,000 deaths per day territory middle of next week. Could be quicker if patients max out the health care. That’s my best guess based on the numbers.