Chiefs Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says - Page 85

JakeF · 01-08-2018, 04:53 PM

Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says
Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network thinks the Chiefs could get a solid trade haul in return for Alex Smith.
Kirk Larrabee - 3 hours ago 0

The Kansas City Chiefs should have no problem finding a trade partner for Alex Smith this offseason and could come away with a strong haul in return, according to insider Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network.

Rapoport, who reported over the weekend the Chiefs would be listening to offers for Smith this offseason, was a guest on The Day Shift on 610 Sports Radio Kansas City Monday, where he was asked about the level of interest in Alex Smith and whether or not the Chiefs will be able to trade him.

"A lot," Rapoport said. "A lot, and yes."

Smith is coming off his best statistical season of his career as he threw for 4,042 yards in 2017 with 26 touchdowns, five interceptions, and a 104.7 passer rating. Rapoport says it's that performance along with what Smith can bring to a team's quarterback room that makes him such a hot commodity.

"He was number one in the NFL in passer rating," Rapoport said. "He is a great person, so if you trade for him and then draft a quarterback high, you will get someone who's going to help him. All you need to do is ask Patrick Mahomes. It's actually an amazing thing what a great person Alex Smith is because he's dealt with a lot of crap in his career despite mostly awesome and has come out the other side of it."

There have been several teams speculated to be good fits for Smith, with different situations among each of them. There's the Jacksonville Jaguars and Buffalo Bills, playoff teams that are still fighting quarterback woes; there's the Arizona Cardinals, a team whose starting quarterback, Carson Palmer, just retired, but still has enough talent to be competitive next season; and there's a team like the Cleveland Browns, who might be interested in acquiring Smith to not just help the team start winning again but to be a mentor to a quarterback they might select in the draft.

The latter situation might not seem like an ideal one to many quarterbacks, but Smith has done it before, and Rapoport thinks he might not have a problem doing it again.

"If I was a franchise quarterback, would I really want to help the guy who is brought in to replace me? I don't know," Rapoport said. "For some ridiculous reason, Alex Smith has done it several times, and he's continued to be a great guy. He's going to end up benefiting from all this because first of all, he's probably going to wind up being traded somewhere great. Second of all, I think his legacy will sort of live on and people will know what a good person he is."

Trading Smith would free up $17 million in cap space for the Chiefs, a much-needed amount for a team currently projected to be over the cap next year, and would also allow them to replenish some of the draft picks they traded away in multiple trades in recent months. It cost a 2013 second round pick and a 2014 conditional pick (which turned out to be another second round pick) for the Chiefs to acquire Smith from the San Francisco 49ers in 2013, and Rapoport thinks the Chiefs could get even more in return for Smith than that.

"I think they might do better this time," Rapoport said. "He is a hot commodity, and they are in unbelievable position."

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jaa1025 · 01-25-2018, 04:51 PM

Trent Green was 30 (31 for his first season) when the Chiefs traded for him with the #12 overall pick. Alex Smith was a better QB on paper at the time.

The Chiefs will get a 2nd for him and likely a conditional pick in the 2019 draft.

I think it was tim grunhard on the radio the other day saying that one reason they will have to trade him is there was likely a rift already starting in the lockerroom with the Alex Smith guys and the Mahomes guys and it's cancerous. It would get worse if they didn't trade him.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-25-2018, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025

Trent Green was 31/32 when the Chiefs traded for him with the #12 overall pick. Alex Smith was a better QB on paper at the time.

Actually, he was 29 at the time the Chiefs traded the #12 overall pick for Green, which is still one of the dumbest ****ing moves, ever, considering they passed on Drew Brees.

**The Franchise** · 01-25-2018, 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025

Trent Green was 31/32 when the Chiefs traded for him with the #12 overall pick. Alex Smith was a better QB on paper at the time.

The Chiefs will get a 2nd for him and likely a conditional pick in the 2019 draft.

I think it was tim grunhard on the radio the other day saying that one reason they will have to trade him is there was likely a rift already starting in the lockerroom with the Alex Smith guys and the Mahomes guys and it's cancerous. It would get worse if they didn't trade him.

All those "Alex Smith guys" can get the **** over it.

jaa1025 · 01-25-2018, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Actually, he was 29 at the time the Chiefs traded the #12 overall pick for Green, which is still one of the dumbest ****ing moves, ever, considering they passed on Drew Brees.

That's not correct either. He was 30, when they traded for him, and by the time his first season as a Chief rolled around, he was 31 years old.

Alex will be 33 when the Chiefs trade him. 34 when next season rolls around.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-25-2018, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jaa1025

That's not correct either. He was 30, when they traded for him, and by the time his first season as a Chief rolled around, he was 31 years old.

Oh, you're right, my bad. I was thinking 2000, not 2001.

**alpha_omega** · 01-25-2018, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

All those "Alex Smith guys" can get the **** over it.

....who are they?

jaa1025 · 01-25-2018, 05:20 PM

Oakland traded a 1st and 2nd rounder for a 32 yo Carson Palmer.

Buffalo traded a 1st round pick for 30 yo Drew Bledsoe.

KC Traded 1st round pick for 31 yo Trent Green.

Washington Traded 11th overall pick for 31 yo Brad Johnson.

KC Traded 1st round pick for 37 yo Joe Montana.

There are a lot more examples of 2nd round picks for QBs way worse or unknown for QB's. McNabb was Alex Smith's age and in decline big time physically and they still got a 2nd round pick.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-25-2018, 05:28 PM

I still think they squeak out an early 2nd at worst. Too valuable to too many franchises right now.

Beerthirty · 01-25-2018, 05:34 PM

Wherever he goes he can take Kietzman and Clinkscale with him

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-25-2018, 05:48 PM

The thing Dominik is overlooking in his assessment is that the Garoppolo trade was a gift. Belichick could have gotten way more than that, but we all already know that he gave him away after his frustrations with Kraft. He also wanted to help Shanahan out it sounds like. I don't even think he made Jimmy G available to other teams, or they would have offered much more.

It doesn't matter what he should or shouldn't be worth on paper when you've got potential for a bidding war.

Setsuna · 01-25-2018, 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by bigjosh

Same shit we were saying 5 years ago.

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Originally Posted by Hammock Parties

Alex Smith has wasted six years of top 10 defenses ('11-'16)

Can he close out his career by wasting another four years of them?

OMG. I'm actually not sure if we are interested in him or not. Which scares the crap out of me. So I'm in full on deny, deny, deny until the decision is made.

**DaneMcCloud** · 01-25-2018, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pugsnotdrugs19

The thing Dominik is overlooking in his assessment is that the Garoppolo trade was a gift. Belichick could have gotten way more than that, but we all already know that he gave him away after his frustrations with Kraft. He also wanted to help Shanahan out it sounds like. I don't even think he made Jimmy G available to other teams, or they would have offered much more.

It doesn't matter what he should or shouldn't be worth on paper when you've got potential for a bidding war.

Also, by trading Garappolo to an NFC team after being on the Patriots roster for 8 games in 2017, Belichick guaranteed Playoff revenues for Jimmy G, which makes it appear that BB had a soft spot for him.

It'll be interesting to see what BB does in the draft this year and if he takes a QB in the first couple of rounds.

JakeF · 01-25-2018, 06:28 PM

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Originally Posted by alpha_omega

....who are they?

They're everywhere.

pugsnotdrugs19 · 01-25-2018, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Also, by trading Garappolo to an NFC team after being on the Patriots roster for 8 games in 2017, Belichick guaranteed Playoff revenues for Jimmy G, which makes it appear that BB had a soft spot for him.

It'll be interesting to see what BB does in the draft this year and if he takes a QB in the first couple of rounds.

I'll likely never be convinced that BB didn't want Jimmy to be his guy in 2018 and beyond. Too much sense can be made from the reports and event details of everything that has happened there.

Belichick could have gotten 1.1 from Cleveland if he offered I would guess. They almost gave up a 2 and a 3 for McCarron, so that has to say something about the QB trade market in itself.

Bewbies · 01-25-2018, 06:31 PM

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JakeF MVP Join Date: May 2017 Casino cash: $9990400	Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says Market for Alex Smith will be strong, Ian Rapoport says Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network thinks the Chiefs could get a solid trade haul in return for Alex Smith. Kirk Larrabee - 3 hours ago 0 The Kansas City Chiefs should have no problem finding a trade partner for Alex Smith this offseason and could come away with a strong haul in return, according to insider Ian Rapoport of the NFL Network. Rapoport, who reported over the weekend the Chiefs would be listening to offers for Smith this offseason, was a guest on The Day Shift on 610 Sports Radio Kansas City Monday, where he was asked about the level of interest in Alex Smith and whether or not the Chiefs will be able to trade him. "A lot," Rapoport said. "A lot, and yes." Smith is coming off his best statistical season of his career as he threw for 4,042 yards in 2017 with 26 touchdowns, five interceptions, and a 104.7 passer rating. Rapoport says it's that performance along with what Smith can bring to a team's quarterback room that makes him such a hot commodity. "He was number one in the NFL in passer rating," Rapoport said. "He is a great person, so if you trade for him and then draft a quarterback high, you will get someone who's going to help him. All you need to do is ask Patrick Mahomes. It's actually an amazing thing what a great person Alex Smith is because he's dealt with a lot of crap in his career despite mostly awesome and has come out the other side of it." There have been several teams speculated to be good fits for Smith, with different situations among each of them. There's the Jacksonville Jaguars and Buffalo Bills, playoff teams that are still fighting quarterback woes; there's the Arizona Cardinals, a team whose starting quarterback, Carson Palmer, just retired, but still has enough talent to be competitive next season; and there's a team like the Cleveland Browns, who might be interested in acquiring Smith to not just help the team start winning again but to be a mentor to a quarterback they might select in the draft. The latter situation might not seem like an ideal one to many quarterbacks, but Smith has done it before, and Rapoport thinks he might not have a problem doing it again. "If I was a franchise quarterback, would I really want to help the guy who is brought in to replace me? I don't know," Rapoport said. "For some ridiculous reason, Alex Smith has done it several times, and he's continued to be a great guy. He's going to end up benefiting from all this because first of all, he's probably going to wind up being traded somewhere great. Second of all, I think his legacy will sort of live on and people will know what a good person he is." Trading Smith would free up $17 million in cap space for the Chiefs, a much-needed amount for a team currently projected to be over the cap next year, and would also allow them to replenish some of the draft picks they traded away in multiple trades in recent months. It cost a 2013 second round pick and a 2014 conditional pick (which turned out to be another second round pick) for the Chiefs to acquire Smith from the San Francisco 49ers in 2013, and Rapoport thinks the Chiefs could get even more in return for Smith than that. "I think they might do better this time," Rapoport said. "He is a hot commodity, and they are in unbelievable position." Author Kirk Larrabee @nfl_chiefs247
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jaa1025 Veteran Join Date: Nov 2006 Casino cash: $10000898	Trent Green was 30 (31 for his first season) when the Chiefs traded for him with the #12 overall pick. Alex Smith was a better QB on paper at the time. The Chiefs will get a 2nd for him and likely a conditional pick in the 2019 draft. I think it was tim grunhard on the radio the other day saying that one reason they will have to trade him is there was likely a rift already starting in the lockerroom with the Alex Smith guys and the Mahomes guys and it's cancerous. It would get worse if they didn't trade him. Last edited by jaa1025; 01-25-2018 at 04:58 PM..
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