***NON-POLITICAL COVID-19 Discussion Thread***

[JakeF]

A couple of reminders...

Originally Posted by Bwana

Once again, don't come in this thread with some kind of political agenda, or you will be shown the door. If you want to go that route, there is a thread about this in DC.

Originally Posted by Dartgod

People, there is a lot of good information in this thread, let's try to keep the petty bickering to a minimum.

We all have varying opinions about the impact of this, the numbers, etc. We will all never agree with each other. But we can all keep it civil.

Thanks!

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Spoiler!

Apparently the CoronaVirus can survive on a inanimate objects, such as door knobs, for 9 days.

California coronavirus case could be first spread within U.S. community, CDC says
By SOUMYA KARLAMANGLA, JACLYN COSGROVE
FEB. 26, 2020 8:04 PM

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is investigating what could be the first case of novel coronavirus in the United States involving a patient in California who neither recently traveled out of the country nor was in contact with someone who did.

“At this time, the patient’s exposure is unknown. It’s possible this could be an instance of community spread of COVID-19, which would be the first time this has happened in the United States,” the CDC said in a statement. “Community spread means spread of an illness for which the source of infection is unknown. It’s also possible, however, that the patient may have been exposed to a returned traveler who was infected.”

The individual is a resident of Solano County and is receiving medical care in Sacramento County, according to the state Department of Public Health.

The CDC said the “case was detected through the U.S. public health system — picked up by astute clinicians.”

Officials at UC Davis Medical Center expanded on what the federal agency might have meant by that in an email sent Wednesday, as reported by the Davis Enterprise newspaper.

The patient arrived at UC Davis Medical Center from another hospital Feb. 19 and “had already been intubated, was on a ventilator, and given droplet protection orders because of an undiagnosed and suspected viral condition,” according to an email sent by UC Davis officials that was obtained by the Davis Enterprise.

The staff at UC Davis requested COVID-19 testing by the CDC, but because the patient didn’t fit the CDC’s existing criteria for the virus, a test wasn’t immediately administered, according to the email. The CDC then ordered the test Sunday, and results were announced Wednesday. Hospital administrators reportedly said in the email that despite these issues, there has been minimal exposure at the hospital because of safety protocols they have in place.

A UC Davis Health spokesperson declined Wednesday evening to share the email with The Times.

Since Feb. 2, more than 8,400 returning travelers from China have entered California, according to the state health department. They have been advised to self-quarantine for 14 days and limit interactions with others as much as possible, officials said.

“This is a new virus, and while we are still learning about it, there is a lot we already know,” Dr. Sonia Angell, director of the California Department of Public Health, said in a statement. “We have been anticipating the potential for such a case in the U.S., and given our close familial, social and business relationships with China, it is not unexpected that the first case in the U.S. would be in California.”

It is not clear how the person became infected, but public health workers could not identify any contacts with people who had traveled to China or other areas where the virus is widespread. That raises concern that the virus is spreading in the United States, creating a challenge for public health officials, experts say.

“It’s the first signal that we could be having silent transmission in the community,” said Lawrence Gostin, director of the World Health Organization Collaborating Center on National and Global Health Law. “It probably means there are many more cases out there, and it probably means this individual has infected others, and now it’s a race to try to find out who that person has infected.”

On Tuesday, the CDC offered its most serious warning to date that the United States should expect and prepare for the coronavirus to become a more widespread health issue.

“Ultimately, we expect we will see coronavirus spread in this country,” said Nancy Messonnier, director of the CDC’s National Center for Immunization and Respiratory Diseases. “It’s not so much a question of if, but a question of when.”

According to the CDC’s latest count Wednesday morning, 59 U.S. residents have tested positive for the new strain of coronavirus — 42 of whom are repatriated citizens from a Diamond Princess cruise. That number has grown by two since Messonnier’s last count Tuesday, although the CDC was not immediately available to offer details on the additional cases.

More than 82,000 cases of coronavirus have been reported globally, and more than 2,700 people have died, with the majority in mainland China, the epicenter of the outbreak.

But public health leaders have repeatedly reminded residents that the health risk from the novel coronavirus to the general public remains low.

“While COVID-19 has a high transmission rate, it has a low mortality rate,” the state Department of Public Health said in a statement Wednesday. “From the international data we have, of those who have tested positive for COVID-19, approximately 80% do not exhibit symptoms that would require hospitalization. There have been no confirmed deaths related to COVID-19 in the United States to date.”

CDC officials have also warned that although the virus is likely to spread in U.S. communities, the flu still poses a greater risk.

Gostin said the news of potential silent transmission does not eliminate the possibility of containing the virus in the U.S. and preventing an outbreak.

“There are few enough cases that we should at least try,” he said. “Most of us are not optimistic that that will be successful, but we’re still in the position to try.”

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by srvy

No its Tom Laughlin who I think is PAChief.

How did you know?

[burt]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

How did you know?

Personally, I think you're quite handsome. So can I avoid you using your right foot on my face?

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by RINGLEADER

If it is accurate the one thing I find interesting about the recovery numbers is how long it takes to recover. I know a lot of these people have to be feeling better sooner, but the amount of time it takes to test negative seems crazy long. Then again, the one time I had pneumonia I was sick for weeks and was feeling it for months.

I have been under the impression the entire time it will take longer for someone to be deemed "recovered". I am not really surprised as we get into what is basically the 3rd week of this that the recovery numbers are now starting to make chunk moves to the upside.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by phisherman

Ha! Water from Longview Lake? I thought BRC knew everything?

Lee's Summit actually buys water from both KC and Independence.

That would explain a lot


I keed, I keed

[PAChiefsGuy]

Originally Posted by burt

Personally, I think you're quite handsome. So can I avoid you using your right foot on my face?

Yes you can. You cool with me!

[Monticore]

On a positive note maybe bj’ s will become the new good night kiss and doggy style the new missionary.

[2112]

Originally Posted by PAChiefsGuy

I'm good. If I see you in person we can handle this like men instead of trading insults on a message board. Have a good day.

I think you can take him if you get him from behind.

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

The systems still have capacity to accept the growth of patents, but it is not sustainable.

If you have 20,000 in savings and spend 5000 more than you make you won't notice any effects for several months. But eventually that surplus runs dry unless you change your spending.

It has never been about right now. It's really about weeks from now.

Yep plus it takes 10-20 days for someone to get off the vent (ie dying) it is going to consume more resources. I think saw something today like you have a very small chance of recovering if you are on the vent.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Yep plus it takes 10-20 days for someone to get off the vent (ie dying) it is going to consume more resources. I think saw something today like you have a very small chance of recovering if you are on the vent.

Eh I’ve seen it’s about 50/50

[2112]

Originally Posted by dirk digler

Yep plus it takes 10-20 days for someone to get off the vent (ie dying) it is going to consume more resources. I think saw something today like you have a very small chance of recovering if you are on the vent.

How are you feeling? Better?

[notorious]

What's this Kansas governor press conference at 11 about?

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by O.city

Eh I’ve seen it’s about 50/50

I found it. This is from Wuhan

So sad. Curious where you get the stat of 30%... can you share data? Ciñese experience in lancet suggest much higher mortality pic.twitter.com/1qqtrKAkCm

— Luke Janik, MD (@lsjanik) March 28, 2020

[dirk digler]

Originally Posted by D2112

How are you feeling? Better?

I was but my daughter wants to come see me today. She is on the COVID response team at one of the hospitals in KC.

I would rather not but how can you say no?

[Hammock Parties]

Wow. Death toll was over 400 yesterday in the US.

Bad feeling have I

[notorious]

Dude from a small town around here decided he just HAD to go to a bachelor party in KC.

Brought it back with him. It takes one ****ing reeruned piece of shit to **** everything up. **** this guy.

And yes, he stereotypical young guy (not going to say the term) that only thinks about himself.